Covering your plate

bnschroder

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I have been wondering why many people on these forums or selling motorcycles cover the plates in their photos. I get privacy concerns, especially if you have something to hide. But there isn't a single number in your life that is as public as your license plate number(s). It's not like we are covering our Social Security Number. This is your bike that is hopefully out on the road a lot, parked at hangouts for bikers that are the same folks who are on these forums.
What sinister thing can they do by knowing your plate that they otherwise can't do? Find out where you live & steal your bike? I am assuming that your bike is nowhere parked more safely than at home. So am I missing a point? is this really necessary?
 

Jlq1969

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I have been wondering why many people on these forums or selling motorcycles cover the plates in their photos. I get privacy concerns, especially if you have something to hide. But there isn't a single number in your life that is as public as your license plate number(s). It's not like we are covering our Social Security Number. This is your bike that is hopefully out on the road a lot, parked at hangouts for bikers that are the same folks who are on these forums.
What sinister thing can they do by knowing your plate that they otherwise can't do? Find out where you live & steal your bike? I am assuming that your bike is nowhere parked more safely than at home. So am I missing a point? is this really necessary?
If you steal an S10 ... and you still have the original license plate on, chances are you'll get caught at some point. But, if you steal an S10 .... and you know the license plate of "another S10" that was not stolen ... the only thing you have to do is get someone to make you a new license plate and papers with the data of the other (not stolen) .... they are known as "twins"
 

Jlq1969

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Obviously, it will depend on the police control systems in each country. But the normal thing in the “underworld”, would be for the police to stop a vehicle, check by radio / internet if the license plate has a capture order request ...if there isn't ... keep driving. it is difficult for them to check engine and chassis numbers
 

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RCinNC

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Well, I could make a case for obscuring my license plate in photos posted online because of the possibility of doxxing (or worse). This is a fairly benign forum as far as anger/death threats/general assholery, but not all forums are like that. I was on a Harley forum at one point in the past that was chock full of that sort of behavior. Again, most of it is just BS, but the problem with posting your opinion on line is that you really don't know much about the people who are reading it. Maybe you make a political statement at some point in your post that someone from the other side disagrees with enough to want to punish you for it. And lo and behold, that one day you posted a photo of your bike with your registration plate. That number reveals the name of the owner of the vehicle, and the location it's registered; with that info I could find out your name, your birthday, your wife's name, what property you own, and a whole raft of other info. There are numerous firms on line that'll sell you information on another person, and a registration number is a good start. When I was a private investigator, I could find out tons of information on you from a database like Lexis Nexis with just your plate number. If someone was interested in causing you some problems, you've just armed them with the tools to do it.

Is it likely? I doubt it. It probably didn't seem likely that Rebecca Schaffer would get murdered by a stalker who hired a Private Investigator to obtain her home address from the California DMV, but that's what happened. That's an absolute worst case scenario, but obscuring your plate with 5 minutes on Microsoft Paint before you post a pic of your ride on a forum, or Facebook, seems like a low effort way to ensure that someone you piss off on line because of your Second Amendment stance or that you prefer Kirk over Picard doesn't have the info to go full Fatal Attraction on you, or maybe call in a SWAT incident at your house, or call your employer to tell them you're a Furry.

I don't worry about the average person in public seeing my plate; they have no reason to get upset with me, because they aren't in a position to get inflamed over something I say that they disagree with. But I've been on something as stupid as a darkside thread where tempers really flared, and it's a lot worse on forums that have a "no holds barred" section that doesn't restrict inflammatory topics. There are a LOT of crazy people on line, and some of them are kinda dangerous, and you don't know which one you're dealing with when they respond to something you wrote.
 

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Well, I could make a case for obscuring my license plate in photos posted online because of the possibility of doxxing (or worse). This is a fairly benign forum as far as anger/death threats/general assholery, but not all forums are like that. I was on a Harley forum at one point in the past that was chock full of that sort of behavior. Again, most of it is just BS, but the problem with posting your opinion on line is that you really don't know much about the people who are reading it. Maybe you make a political statement at some point in your post that someone from the other side disagrees with enough to want to punish you for it. And lo and behold, that one day you posted a photo of your bike with your registration plate. That number reveals the name of the owner of the vehicle, and the location it's registered; with that info I could find out your name, your birthday, your wife's name, what property you own, and a whole raft of other info. There are numerous firms on line that'll sell you information on another person, and a registration number is a good start. When I was a private investigator, I could find out tons of information on you from a database like Lexis Nexis with just your plate number. If someone was interested in causing you some problems, you've just armed them with the tools to do it.

Is it likely? I doubt it. It probably didn't seem likely that Rebecca Schaffer would get murdered by a stalker who hired a Private Investigator to obtain her home address from the California DMV, but that's what happened. That's an absolute worst case scenario, but obscuring your plate with 5 minutes on Microsoft Paint before you post a pic of your ride on a forum, or Facebook, seems like a low effort way to ensure that someone you piss off on line because of your Second Amendment stance or that you prefer Kirk over Picard doesn't have the info to go full Fatal Attraction on you, or maybe call in a SWAT incident at your house, or call your employer to tell them you're a Furry.

I don't worry about the average person in public seeing my plate; they have no reason to get upset with me, because they aren't in a position to get inflamed over something I say that they disagree with. But I've been on something as stupid as a darkside thread where tempers really flared, and it's a lot worse on forums that have a "no holds barred" section that doesn't restrict inflammatory topics. There are a LOT of crazy people on line, and some of them are kinda dangerous, and you don't know which one you're dealing with when they respond to something you wrote.
Absolutely on point!
 

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I've pissed so many people off in real life, and since this is my only foray social media. . . . my license plate number is the least of my worries. I had a guy that was so mad at me, that he started a Facebook page to track my location. People were supposed to post my location, when they saw me. I thought it was hilarious; my wife, not so much. It went on for a month or so, until my wife complained to Facebook. They shut it down. Now that I'm retired, my R.O.E. have changed. I don't need to be anywhere near as nice as used to be.

In the words of Tim Kennedy: They can send whoever they want, as long as they don't want them back.
 
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ballisticexchris

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Yes Robert you are right. Hiding a plate is the least of my worries as well. Unless you have crazy expensive software technology your IP address is easy to track right to where you are typing on your keyboard. Every time we use our phones we can be tracked. I have nothing to hide and just roll with the punches as best I can.

Some people are downright paranoid about anyone knowing about their private life. The exception would be if you are in litigation where someone will lie and twist the truth from anything you say or do to make you look bad. It's the world we live in......
 

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Wait a minute. . . . being a furry is a bad thing? :rolleyes:
What is a furry? From what I just searched it is someone that dresses in furs....Is that right?

".......When you're a stranger...." - to finish the lyric of the post above (well, it wouldn't be below would it, you idiot :D )
 

Don T

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I'm still to hear what I consider to be a reasonable argument for covering the plates on my bikes when posting pictures online - so I don't.
 

Jlq1969

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each one will have their reasons .... for these latitudes ... "twin" things are common
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