Longdog Cymru
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Just wondering if anyone on here has fitted a BoosterPlug to their S10 and if so, are you happy with it?
https://www.boosterplug.com/shop/frontpage.html
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nwrider
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A waste of money.
What experience do you have with the BoosterPlug to find it a waste of money?
I haven't tried it myself, but have talked to a couple of guys who were happy costumers.
Longdog Cymru
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Hmmm..... I am sure there are a lot of people who would like you to quantify that statement.
Do you even have any experience of this equipment?
The guy who makes them has a money back guarantee so I guess if you are not satisfied, then you get your money back. It doesn’t sound like a waste of money to me!
Depends on how much it is. You ought to compare it to having a reflash done to quantify it.
Longdog Cymru
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£126.95 in U.K. $159.95 in USA for the BoosterPlug.
Can you get your money back on a re-flash? It probably depends what you want and what mods you have made to your bike and how good your re-flash guy is and how much you want to pay to put your bike on a rolling road while the re-flash is configured.
The Booster Plug is plug and play and simply enriches the mixture of the stock ecu map while leaving the stock map unchanged.
Can you get your money back on a re-flash? It probably depends what you want and what mods you have made to your bike and how good your re-flash guy is and how much you want to pay to put your bike on a rolling road while the re-flash is configured.
The Booster Plug is plug and play and simply enriches the mixture of the stock ecu map while leaving the stock map unchanged.
Tenman
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I called the guy at Booster Plug. I was having a surge at 2000 rpm. I told him I had richened my power commander at 2000 rpm. He said if that didn't fix it. The booster plug wouldn't help. Honest guy that seems to really know his stuff.
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One of my other bikes is a 2016 Triumph Tiger 800 that can't readily be flashed. I have the Booster Plug. It reduces throttle touchiness that comes from running lean. So IMHO was money well spent. That said, AC flashed my Tenere ECU and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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ballisticexchris
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The best way to test to see if you want the booster plug is to ride in 35 deg (1.7 celsius) weather and see how your bike runs. If it runs a lot better then get the booster plug.
azb
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That's not really how it works. It lowers the temp that the ecu sees by about 10 degrees below outside temp. This creates a slightly richer condition.
Simply riding in colder weather certainly richens the mixture, but since colder air is denser, you're still at tbe same ratio with a stock setup.
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To each their own. It's just a simple device that alters the temperature reading from the airbox intake sensor. About $5 in parts. Nothing active or calibrated. Just creates a slightly richer condition across the board.
I'm not a fan of PC devices, but at least they are tune-able. Makes no sense to me to add a booster plug if you already have a tune-able device or are getting a flash done.
I'm not a fan of PC devices, but at least they are tune-able. Makes no sense to me to add a booster plug if you already have a tune-able device or are getting a flash done.
Cycledude
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My 2018 definitely has the twitchy throttle issue in warm weather , in cold weather the twitch disappears.
Previous 2013 had the twitch but it was nowhere as serious. The 2018 also has a pop out the exhaust the 2013 never had. But other than those issues both bikes run great. The 2018 gets a lot better MPG than the 2013.
I believe Yamaha could pretty easily fix it but they don’t get enough complaints so they just keep ignoring It.
Previous 2013 had the twitch but it was nowhere as serious. The 2018 also has a pop out the exhaust the 2013 never had. But other than those issues both bikes run great. The 2018 gets a lot better MPG than the 2013.
I believe Yamaha could pretty easily fix it but they don’t get enough complaints so they just keep ignoring It.
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nwrider
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RE Booster Plugs. Yes, I've tried them on a number of bikes at various times including Husky, Ducati, Moto Guzzi, etc. In my opinion, you're much better off having the ECU reflashed/remapped, which I've done on my 2012 and 2014ES Tenere's.
I understand that the air mass sensor works differently. It does not matter if the air is cold or hot (more or less dense), the air mass sensor generates its own heat and the air mass is what cools it, and with this, calculates how much air is entering and depending on this, injects fuel. It is not the same to open the throttle at 100% at 1000 tr / m than at 7000 tr / m. The amount of air mass is different, independent of the outside temperature. And both, the air mass sensor in conjunction with the lambda sensor, will always try to keep the stoichiometric mixture close to the optimum. If there is any moment, where the ECU can ignore this optimal mixture, and make the mixture richer, it is in the cold start, and the ECU only knows that it is a cold start, by the engine temperature sensor. What I mean is, that if you want to enrich the mixture, modifying the mass sensor, the lambda sensor, will modify the mixture and it won't let get away from the optimal mix. The cold air (denser) is not always richer in oxygen. If you travel through a mountainous area 4000 meters above sea level, it is certain that the air will be cold, but it is also certain that it will be poor in oxygen. In this case the lambda sensor will be the one that maintains the optimal stoichiometric mixture
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jbrown
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The S10 doesn't have a mass air flow sensor. It has an intake absolute pressure sensor and the intake air temperature sensor. It calculates the air flow from that data.
Clawdog60
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Yes and I have a noticeable power delivery change from the bike when pressure,humidity and temperature are at an optimum point. I don’t think the ecu calibrates itself all that efficiently for changing conditions. In other words whoever programmed it did a slack job. So will a reflash cure the discrepancy through all changing atmospheric conditions? Not likely.
Longdog Cymru
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So do you have a Booster Plug fitted?
Clawdog60
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No and I wouldn’t recommend that snake oil.
Longdog Cymru
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Well maybe that’s a little harsh as you haven’t tried it for yourself. The people who make the Booster Plug are quite open about what it does and what it can’t do and they also offer a money back guarantee if the buyer isn’t satisfied. It seems like a ”win - win” solution to me.
It seems to me that a re-flash can be a little hit and miss too with some saying it’s the answer to their prayers and others demanding their money back. I think there are people who really understand ECUs and some who just claim to. Whichever route you take I guess it is “buyer beware”.
i rode my bike from bridgend to bristol last year chris had my bike on the dyno for 4 1/2 hrs and flashed the ecu in both modes, i can honestly say the 1 hr ride home was fantastic, i spent 2 yrs trying to find out about ecu flash in the uk and power commanders.
chris is exceptional at ecu flashing
rob
chris is exceptional at ecu flashing
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