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Just got off the phone with the Dealer, they said the 7000 mile service is just and engine oil change and check the air filter, estimated cost $200.
 

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Just got off the phone with the Dealer, they said the 7000 mile service is just and engine oil change and check the air filter, estimated cost $200.
I guess you didn't want synthetic oil then. It's hard to get out of there for under $350 or so.
 

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Just got off the phone with the Dealer, they said the 7000 mile service is just and engine oil change and check the air filter, estimated cost $200.
Well the oil is probably $20/quart, the oil filter is probably another $20 and the tech's time could easily add up to $200. Don't feel bad, one of my neighbors took a Honda ATV in for an oil change and was presented a bill for $140. Oil change and new air filter.
 

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Latest update. I have 7000 miles on my 2019 GS and still loving it with no issues/problems. There was a Recall for the front brake calipers but my particular bike is not effected, the calipers are perfect.

I just had the second service performed by the Dealer ($250), getting it back today.

I can see why 30-40% of the bikes BMW sells are GS/GSA models. This bike is just amazing, bravo BMW!!!!
 

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I can see why 30-40% of the bikes BMW sells are GS/GSA models. This bike is just amazing, bravo BMW!!!!
Thanks for keeping us up to day. Glad to hear all is going well. I know my wife's little GS has been problem free for over 9K miles.

I suspect one day in the distant future I'll have a big GS. I was amazed by the test ride.
 

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GS is good but my only concern is maintenance / repair cost, where i live is so different.
GS check 6k miles around 3xx USD/ plus if you drop or accident the fixing cost is crazy. So i have to beware when riding GS not to do anything too crazy.
Where, on S10 i could ride it like a stolen bike.
 

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I bring the GS to the dealer for maintenance, and yes it is higher cost but not much! I had the Dealer perform initial and 7000 mile service which included oil change with filer and rear end oil change, the cost was $250. This is about $100 more than a Japanese manufacturer brand. A buddy of mine just last month brought in his Kawasaki Nomad for the same Dealer service work on his bike and it cost him $150. The GS is so amazing that I am willing to pay the extra $100 bucks!

I don't worry about crashing the GS and cost for damage as what will be, will be. I ride my Goldwing and GS in the same safe manner.
 
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ballisticexchris

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Here is the required 6,000 mile service schedule for R 1200 GS Adventure. This is directly off of the dealer service check list of the what is performed. I only know this because I was looking at purchasing a GS when shopping for my adventure bike. All these checks are easy but time consuming when done properly. So for 250.00 you are getting a great deal.



Reading fault memory with BMW Motorrad diagnostic system

Oil change, engine, with filter

Checking valve clearance (for maintenance)

Visual inspection of hydraulic clutch system

Visually inspecting brake pipes, brake hoses and connections

Checking front brake pads and brake discs for wear

Checking brake-fluid level, front brakes

Checking rear brake pads and brake disc for wear

Checking brake-fluid level, rear brakes

Checking freedom of movement of Bowden cables and checking for kinks and chafing

Checking tire tread depth and tire pressure

Checking ease of movement of side stand

Checking ease of movement of center stand

Checking spoke tension, adjusting if necessary

Checking lights and signaling equipment

Function test, engine start suppression

Correcting engine synchronization (for maintenance)

Final inspection and check of roadworthiness

Reading fault memory with BMW Motorrad diagnostic system

Setting service-due date and service countdown distance

Checking battery charge state

Confirming BMW Service in on-board documentation
 
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ballisticexchris

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What's funny is I cannot find the recommended service schedule for the final drive. Good on your dealer to adding that to the service and not charging you extra.
 

bmac

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Here is the required 6,000 mile service schedule for R 1200 GS Adventure. This is directly off of the dealer service check list of the what is performed. I only know this because I was looking at purchasing a GS when shopping for my adventure bike. All these checks are easy but time consuming when done properly. So for 250.00 you are getting a great deal.



Reading fault memory with BMW Motorrad diagnostic system

Oil change, engine, with filter

Checking valve clearance (for maintenance)

Visual inspection of hydraulic clutch system

Visually inspecting brake pipes, brake hoses and connections

Checking front brake pads and brake discs for wear

Checking brake-fluid level, front brakes

Checking rear brake pads and brake disc for wear

Checking brake-fluid level, rear brakes

Checking freedom of movement of Bowden cables and checking for kinks and chafing

Checking tire tread depth and tire pressure

Checking ease of movement of side stand

Checking ease of movement of center stand

Checking spoke tension, adjusting if necessary

Checking lights and signaling equipment

Function test, engine start suppression

Correcting engine synchronization (for maintenance)

Final inspection and check of roadworthiness

Reading fault memory with BMW Motorrad diagnostic system

Setting service-due date and service countdown distance

Checking battery charge state

Confirming BMW Service in on-board documentation
That is not the service schedule for subject bike.
 
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My uncle is pretty well off in life and doesn't have to worry of maintenance cost ect, but has a pretty good advice on BMW, MERCEDES, PORSCHE and the like. Buy them, they are great, nothing compares, but when the warranty is gone, get rid of it right away. Good advise for sure from an expert on the subject. I buy vehicals whether it be 4 wheel or 2 that don't fall into that catagory personally, but opinions and unlimited funds vary.
 

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I bring the GS to the dealer for maintenance, and yes it is higher cost but not much! I had the Dealer perform initial and 7000 mile service which included oil change with filer and rear end oil change, the cost was $250.
I don't worry about crashing the GS and cost for damage as what will be, will be. I ride my Goldwing and GS in the same safe manner.
Goldwing, I always smile when you post stuff, it’s just so easy for you;):D
 

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My uncle is pretty well off in life and doesn't have to worry of maintenance cost ect, but has a pretty good advice on BMW, MERCEDES, PORSCHE and the like. Buy them, they are great, nothing compares, but when the warranty is gone, get rid of it right away. Good advise for sure from an expert on the subject. I buy vehicals whether it be 4 wheel or 2 that don't fall into that catagory personally, but opinions and unlimited funds vary.
Anyone that has worries (real or imagined) about longevity can always buy an extended warranty. In the meantime they can enjoy the "they are great, nothing compares".

I am closing in on 18k miles on my 2019 R1250GS without an issue. So far, it has been a fabulous ownership experience and I expect it to continue. The bike puts a smile on my face every time I ride it. It is the best all around bike I have found. Valve check was easily done at home and no visit to the shop has been necessary. My plan is to put at least 100k on this bike and I will not be buying an extended warranty.

Some folks choose to be grumpy old farts and focus only on the negative. I prefer a different approach to life and motorcycles.
 
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ballisticexchris

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Anyone that has worries (real or imagined) about longevity can always buy an extended warranty. In the meantime they can enjoy the "they are great, nothing compares".

I am closing in on 18k miles on my 2019 R1250GS without an issue. So far, it has been a fabulous ownership experience and I expect it to continue. The bike puts a smile on my face every time I ride it. It is the best all around bike I have found. Valve check was easily done at home and no visit to the shop has been necessary. My plan is to put at least 100k on this bike and I will not be buying an extended warranty.

Some folks choose to be grumpy old farts and focus only on the negative. I prefer a different approach to life and motorcycles.
Bikes are a very personal choice. I did a ton of research and test rides before choosing the Super Tenere. There is no question that the GS is a very popular machine.

My personal experience researching cost of ownership and test riding one was the deal breaker. The odd handling characteristics of the machine were not for me. I just did not feel comfortable on it. Drive shaft hop, clunky gear changes, and compensating for the torque steer when cornering could not be ignored. Of the over dozen guys that test rode the GS's there were only 2 of us that did not like them.

When I swing a leg over a bike I'm looking for instant gratification. I really don't like having to get used to quirks and compromises in the ergos or handling. The only 2 "adventure bikes" that felt comfortable right away were the Super Tenere and 1090/1190/1290 KTM. The KTM's were simply too much bike for me.

I recommend to anyone in the market for a bike to do real test rides. Slow speed, hard on/off throttle and braking in corners, and doing everything you can to unsettle the chassis.
 

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The odd handling characteristics of the machine were not for me. I just did not feel comfortable on it. Drive shaft hop, clunky gear changes, and compensating for the torque steer when cornering could not be ignored. Of the over dozen guys that test rode the GS's there were only 2 of us that did not like them.

When I swing a leg over a bike I'm looking for instant gratification. I really don't like having to get used to quirks and compromises in the ergos or handling. The only 2 "adventure bikes" that felt comfortable right away were the Super Tenere and 1090/1190/1290 KTM. The KTM's were simply too much bike for me.
The KTM's can be quite docile when called upon to do so. Perhaps, as your skills advance, you will no longer feel intimidated by them. Along with improving your skills you may no longer notice things that aren't there. The handling of the GS is outstanding and is very clearly a step above the S10 (no offense to S10 owners intended), mainly due to lighter weight, stiffer chassis, and quicker transition in slower corners. As a professional motorcyclist (i.e. someone that gets paid to ride motorcycles) I can state definitively that there is no drive shaft hop or torque steer. I have no idea what you are talking about. I am fortunate to associate with several other professional motorcyclist, many of whom own GS's, and none of them experience the issues you claim to have.

It is quite clear when Yamaha developer the Super Tenere that they benchmarked the GS. The ergo's between the two bikes is very similar. I am all day comfortable on both of them. There are no quirks or compromises on either bike when it comes to ergos. Personal preference may result in seat or handlebar changes as necessary to accommodate different riders. No bike can be set up perfectly out of the box for riders of all sizes.

I don't know if your statements were meant to be hyperbole or not but it really is over the top.
 

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. . . . The handling of the GS is outstanding and is very clearly a step above the S10 . . . . As a professional motorcyclist (i.e. someone that gets paid to ride motorcycles) I can state definitively that there is no drive shaft hop or torque steer. . . .
I too got paid to ride bikes, for many years. I do have to admit that I was riding an RT1150, and only a very short time on an RT1200, so not exactly the same. But, my personal opinion is the opposite. The Tenere's handling feels way superior to the RT. The Tenere's feel, makes me question the scale; until I have to push her around the garage. I never experienced any drive shaft hop or torque steer, but if you were stationary, and "blipped" the throttle, she definitely rolled to the right.

Everybody has their preferences.
 
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