MIMSEY
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Anyone tried them??
Avon AV84 / AV85 Trekrider Tires
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ballisticexchris
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They look like an outstanding street tire that would also work well in the rain. I would not recommend them at all for anything other than pavement. I can't believe these a marketed as a 50/50 tire. These manufacturers amaze me with what they will say about a tire. No regards at all to rider safety.
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The front wears well, the rear goes fast. I've mounted a couple fronts, one rear was enough.
MIMSEY
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The reviews I've seen say they are getting the same distance as K60 scout. And equal on dirt and gravel On 1200gs's.
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Wow, not by me. Maybe a third of the life a K60 I ran did.
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Okay.. very interesting, Thanks..
EricV
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Not sure where you read that. No one I've read about got that kind of mileage from a Trekrider rear. But then, some riders are burning up a K60 in 4k miles too.
MIMSEY
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Here is one review.Not sure where you read that. No one I've read about got that kind of mileage from a Trekrider rear. But then, some riders are burning up a K60 in 4k miles too.
http://circamotolife.com/avon-trekrider-adventure-motorcycle-tire-long-term-review/
I killed a k60 rear in 4000 km on a KLR.Not sure where you read that. No one I've read about got that kind of mileage from a Trekrider rear. But then, some riders are burning up a K60 in 4k miles too.
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I'm sorry Mimsey, but online rags don't count. Actual, real people on their own bikes give far more accurate and detailed information. By default, anything written for a magazine or online article is biased by too many outside forces. Even at that, they claimed to get 5500 miles. That's a non-tire for me. I get 12k from a rear K60.
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4000 miles is outstanding mileage out of any soft compound tire!Not sure where you read that. No one I've read about got that kind of mileage from a Trekrider rear. But then, some riders are burning up a K60 in 4k miles too.
MIMSEY
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Was just looking for some feedback from S10 riders is all, I need new tires, these looked like something that might work for me.
I will keep looking, but I have to get tires soon. I want the Tractionator GPS But you Cannot get them in Canada right now, or I cant find anyone who has them yet.
This gentlemen Says He got 15km out of his.. A Review from Fortnine.
★★★★★ 5 out of 5 stars.
superfunkomatic
Enthusiast (daily) 2016 Honda Africa Twin CRF1000L
11 months ago
Avon TrekRider - Excellent tourer and gravel
Used a set for my cross-Canada journey and I have to say - I like these tires, a lot! They are excellent.
Almost exactly 15,000 kilometers of riding on them before the rear was completely warn out. The front actually still has some life left.
I'd highly recommend the Trekriders to anyone looking for a good 50/50 tire.
Here are some observations:
On pavement it felt as good as the Pilot Road 4 Trails I had on my Varadero - which says a lot - they're that good.
I pushed them on twisty roads, rode in wet and rain on several occasions - excellent in all conditions.
Offroad they are steady and predictable and bite into surface well. I'd say about 10% of my time on these tires was in gravel and dirt road use. Worked well in packed dirt, loose gravel and even oatmeal type muck. The only place they didn't work well was loose sandy surfaces, but I'd guess that only a true knobby would work there.
It's a single compound tire and wears evenly through its life. The tires remained easy to turn in and cornered the same throughout their use right to the end.
I had a front flat (twice) on my journey and it was easy to remove the tire with simple hand tools.
At 15,000 kilometres they go on, and on, and on. If you use them primarily for dirt and gravel I'd say at about 12,000 kilometres they would stop being useful. On the pavement they were fine all the way.
If you're looking for a long-life and multi-purpose tire this is an excellent one.
Good Dirt Tire; Faultless Road Tire(Revzilla)
Having run the K60 Scout in the past, I found the Trekrider to be the antithesis to the K60. Where the K60 is square, and tends to be untrustworthy on wet pavement, the Trekrider has an aggressive round profile for peg grinding canyon carving on the pavement and a soft rubber compound that provides a relentless grip on the pavement in the rain. I commuted to the office in record rainfalls this spring, riding at a brisk pace, because I simply couldn't break the tires lose in the rain.
On the dirt these tires on comparable to the K60. At full pressure the Trekriders are predictable on the hardpack, gravel, and dirt. In the mud they can get loaded easy if you don't have enough wheel spin for self-cleaning, but the K60 is the same IMHO. I dropped the air pressure down a bit for the "snotty" clay trails and got even better grip.
In the longevity department, you'll get more miles out of the K60. However, the Scout tends to square off like a car tire with age and riding around the curves on the side knobs gets unnerving. The Trekrider maintains its round profile throughout its life.
This is an excellent choice for riders looking for a 50/50 tire and like to hit the twisty pavement on the way, and between the trails. This is also a great commuter tire. If you put a priority on longevity ahead of performance, you may be disappointed, but if you like to ride your adventure bike like a super moto between the trails this is the tire for you.
3K Miles with the Trekriders (Revzilla)
It's been about 3K miles with the Trekriders on a BMW R1200GS. On-road handling has been as good or better than the other DS tires I've tried from Bridgestone, Metzler, and Continental. They are the most confidence inspiring of the lot. Off-road they have been the better than anything else I've tried except TKC80s. And that includes finding myself on wilderness roads in the national forest. That said, I have not had them in deep mud or sand. They show no signs of cupping. And there is no real sign of flat-spotting, though at least half of my miles are in the mountains of VA, WV, NC, etc. Now, for the one negative...they are NOISY. Kind of a mix between the whine of an 18-wheeler and the rumble of a pickup running a mudders next to your open window. So, as much as I like them, the noise will keep me from buying another set. Bummer, as they are otherwise a winner.
This guys say he got Puctures, Ive heard that about Shinkos as well, I've run many sets of those and never had a flat, even on some really knarly rocks and gravel.
Carry a tire pump & plugs(revzilla)
I had a set of these on my BMW GSA, in less than 3000 miles I had two rear tire punctures. Once on a forest service road & once on the Freeway. My bike runs tubeless tires and I was able to plug, inflate & ride out of both situations. After the second plug I trashed the rear tire, even though it had lots of tread left. I have never ran a tire so prone to flats... wont buy another set. Too bad, as they have plenty of traction on the street & on dry gravel or dirt roads.
I will keep looking, but I have to get tires soon. I want the Tractionator GPS But you Cannot get them in Canada right now, or I cant find anyone who has them yet.
This gentlemen Says He got 15km out of his.. A Review from Fortnine.
★★★★★ 5 out of 5 stars.
superfunkomatic
Enthusiast (daily) 2016 Honda Africa Twin CRF1000L
11 months ago
Avon TrekRider - Excellent tourer and gravel
Used a set for my cross-Canada journey and I have to say - I like these tires, a lot! They are excellent.
Almost exactly 15,000 kilometers of riding on them before the rear was completely warn out. The front actually still has some life left.
I'd highly recommend the Trekriders to anyone looking for a good 50/50 tire.
Here are some observations:
On pavement it felt as good as the Pilot Road 4 Trails I had on my Varadero - which says a lot - they're that good.
I pushed them on twisty roads, rode in wet and rain on several occasions - excellent in all conditions.
Offroad they are steady and predictable and bite into surface well. I'd say about 10% of my time on these tires was in gravel and dirt road use. Worked well in packed dirt, loose gravel and even oatmeal type muck. The only place they didn't work well was loose sandy surfaces, but I'd guess that only a true knobby would work there.
It's a single compound tire and wears evenly through its life. The tires remained easy to turn in and cornered the same throughout their use right to the end.
I had a front flat (twice) on my journey and it was easy to remove the tire with simple hand tools.
At 15,000 kilometres they go on, and on, and on. If you use them primarily for dirt and gravel I'd say at about 12,000 kilometres they would stop being useful. On the pavement they were fine all the way.
If you're looking for a long-life and multi-purpose tire this is an excellent one.
Good Dirt Tire; Faultless Road Tire(Revzilla)
Having run the K60 Scout in the past, I found the Trekrider to be the antithesis to the K60. Where the K60 is square, and tends to be untrustworthy on wet pavement, the Trekrider has an aggressive round profile for peg grinding canyon carving on the pavement and a soft rubber compound that provides a relentless grip on the pavement in the rain. I commuted to the office in record rainfalls this spring, riding at a brisk pace, because I simply couldn't break the tires lose in the rain.
On the dirt these tires on comparable to the K60. At full pressure the Trekriders are predictable on the hardpack, gravel, and dirt. In the mud they can get loaded easy if you don't have enough wheel spin for self-cleaning, but the K60 is the same IMHO. I dropped the air pressure down a bit for the "snotty" clay trails and got even better grip.
In the longevity department, you'll get more miles out of the K60. However, the Scout tends to square off like a car tire with age and riding around the curves on the side knobs gets unnerving. The Trekrider maintains its round profile throughout its life.
This is an excellent choice for riders looking for a 50/50 tire and like to hit the twisty pavement on the way, and between the trails. This is also a great commuter tire. If you put a priority on longevity ahead of performance, you may be disappointed, but if you like to ride your adventure bike like a super moto between the trails this is the tire for you.
3K Miles with the Trekriders (Revzilla)
It's been about 3K miles with the Trekriders on a BMW R1200GS. On-road handling has been as good or better than the other DS tires I've tried from Bridgestone, Metzler, and Continental. They are the most confidence inspiring of the lot. Off-road they have been the better than anything else I've tried except TKC80s. And that includes finding myself on wilderness roads in the national forest. That said, I have not had them in deep mud or sand. They show no signs of cupping. And there is no real sign of flat-spotting, though at least half of my miles are in the mountains of VA, WV, NC, etc. Now, for the one negative...they are NOISY. Kind of a mix between the whine of an 18-wheeler and the rumble of a pickup running a mudders next to your open window. So, as much as I like them, the noise will keep me from buying another set. Bummer, as they are otherwise a winner.
This guys say he got Puctures, Ive heard that about Shinkos as well, I've run many sets of those and never had a flat, even on some really knarly rocks and gravel.
Carry a tire pump & plugs(revzilla)
I had a set of these on my BMW GSA, in less than 3000 miles I had two rear tire punctures. Once on a forest service road & once on the Freeway. My bike runs tubeless tires and I was able to plug, inflate & ride out of both situations. After the second plug I trashed the rear tire, even though it had lots of tread left. I have never ran a tire so prone to flats... wont buy another set. Too bad, as they have plenty of traction on the street & on dry gravel or dirt roads.
MIMSEY
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I have a Buddy on a gs800 that did the same.. So he just puts TKC 80's on every 3000km. My problem is I have to ride 200kms to get to Good dirt roads nothing more than a couple here and there where I live.I killed a k60 rear in 4000 km on a KLR.
I think it was because I was steering a bit with the rear in the gravel and it just wore it out... With traction control it probably would have gone a lot futher (no TC on the KLR besides my wrist
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MIMSEY
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I have about 6000 kms on mine, about 25% left on the rear, front is at about 65% out of it for black top its a good tire, very good on dirt and gravel, great on Tarmac.
almost all of it was loaded with camping gear. Kept the pressure at 43 front 33 front. Good tire I would buy it again.
I didn't get close to 50/50 with them, more like 20/80 so they held up well IMO for the amount of pavement they saw. Price good and they last longer than the Shinko's. Which are close in price.
almost all of it was loaded with camping gear. Kept the pressure at 43 front 33 front. Good tire I would buy it again.
I didn't get close to 50/50 with them, more like 20/80 so they held up well IMO for the amount of pavement they saw. Price good and they last longer than the Shinko's. Which are close in price.
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