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Just leave the bloody thing alone and ride it.SilverBullet said:
Another ECU Reflash Comment on Anthony
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I had EC Unleashed do my 2012 and the fan cut in and out temps remained the same as stock.tomatocity said:
scott123007
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+1fredz43 said:
I wonder Anthony does that? There is absolutely no benefit in having your fan come on earlier, unless you like hearing your fan run more. LOL
He does it as a way to tell if bike is flashed, if I remember the conversation correctly.
His setting is 205. Flashtune sets the start at 207 on the the ones they work on.
His setting is 205. Flashtune sets the start at 207 on the the ones they work on.
WJBertrand
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I have the flash tune in my 2015 ES, the fan switches on at exactly 205F and off again at 195F. At least according to the dashboard coolant temp gauge.regulator said:
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Did you check yours theroamr?
SilverBullet
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tomatocity said:
Isn't running slightly cooler a benefit? If not why does Yamaha let the fan continue to run until the temp cools down to 212?scott123007 said:
But the fan does run quite a bit more. Anything slow and technical my fan is running much more than the unflashed bikes.
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scott123007
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It's not about it running slightly cooler as much as keeping the fan from running constantly. If the thermostat came on at 220 and cycled off at 218 it would only take moments for the fan to come on again. The 8 - 10 degree window from cycling on to off gives the fan a rest.SilverBullet said:
Unfortunately, one of the few shortcomings of the Tenere is a minimalistic radiator. As heavy as this Pig is already, it wouldn't have hurt to have a couple more rungs on the radiator and a few more ounces of water in the cooling system. The fact that the radiator is side mounted is all the more reason it should be larger. Not so much because of air flow, but air dispersion. The fact that it is encased means that even when stopped, it is at a disadvantage to radiators that are not, for its inability to shed heat. What's more aggravating is how vulnerable the fan is to damage, from a fall over on the left side. If you are out on the trails where you are going slower with minimal air flow and the chance of a tip over is more likely, the last thing you want with a bike that fights to keep its water below boiling in that situation, without the help of a fan, is a non functioning fan. Then what do you do? Ride in short increments and then wait however long for it to cool down, until you can get to a point where you can get sufficient air moving again so your radiator doesn't boil over and ruin your engine?
Sorry for the rant but I never experienced this with my '03 V-Strom 1000, no matter what I put it through.
SilverBullet
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Fan doesn't run constantly by a long shot. It simply comes on sooner thereby maintaining a cooler temperature. It cycles on/off in the same manner as the stock bike, but just at a lower temperature settings. When my fan cycles off a stock Tenere fan is just turning on. When the stock bike cycles off then my bike's fan is back on again. I'm sure the duty cycle of my fan is higher but not by very much unless conditions were very extreme.scott123007 said:
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Love the rant Scott. The Tenere forum has so few of them. 
But if Yamaha stuck a big fat front mounted super cooler radiator, then the Tenere would be just another poser with knobbies.
(although it is well documented that if you ARE going to go all dirt crazy with the Tenere, you best address that fan vulnerability)
Kind of like the recent valve adjustment discussions, the Tenere now has 6+ years of forum history to draw from and there is nothing here to warrant much concern.
Tenere meltdowns from inadequate cooling must be rare as well?
And as much as the Vstrom 1000 is a really amazing bike\value equation, it isn't going to survive on the same trails that some folks take these Teneres.
It might have better cooling apparatus, but that is because Suzuki knew they weren't taking a risk equipping it with it.
But if Yamaha stuck a big fat front mounted super cooler radiator, then the Tenere would be just another poser with knobbies.
(although it is well documented that if you ARE going to go all dirt crazy with the Tenere, you best address that fan vulnerability)
Kind of like the recent valve adjustment discussions, the Tenere now has 6+ years of forum history to draw from and there is nothing here to warrant much concern.
Tenere meltdowns from inadequate cooling must be rare as well?
And as much as the Vstrom 1000 is a really amazing bike\value equation, it isn't going to survive on the same trails that some folks take these Teneres.
It might have better cooling apparatus, but that is because Suzuki knew they weren't taking a risk equipping it with it.
robe
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I just did my ECU.
Best money ever spend
It seems like i bought new motorcycle!
Best money ever spend
It seems like i bought new motorcycle!
I think the rider needs a rest from the fan more than the fan needs a rest. It's an electric motor that should be able to run for years with no problem. I have a ceiling fan in my house that has been turning for 24 years. The only time it is ever turned off is for an occasional blade cleaning.scott123007 said:
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Finally got a warm(ish) sunny day here. First 50 miles on the reflash and new seat. T mode is better and S mode is waay better. Much smoother and the engine braking is reduced to just where I like it. I could comfortably ride in stop and go traffic in S mode now. The snatchiness made that really tough to do before.
As for the seat, I forgot it was there for the first half of the ride. Neutral, comfy and allows me enough movement. Both modes made a great bike better.
As for the seat, I forgot it was there for the first half of the ride. Neutral, comfy and allows me enough movement. Both modes made a great bike better.
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robe,robe said:
Just curious, who did you have do your reflash. Just curious if you used someone local in Chicago or did the mail in.
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robe
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Terminus said:
Anthony did it.
New Jersey.
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Thanks!robe said:
shmitty
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I have now completed about 500 miles on the bike since installing the reflashed ecu and I am extrefmely pleased with the results. The roads I rode were both paved and dirt, although the dirt was not anything remotely gnarly as I was traveling alone, and I used both T and S modes extensively. Anthony turned the ecu around in one day, and was excellent in responding to my questions and communicating with me during the process. He is definately an asset to the Super Tenere comunity and I can whole heartedly recommend his services. ::012::
As for the results of the reflash, I was surprised at the difference in performance in T mode. I wasn't expecting the throttle response to be that much crisper down low, and at first was concerned that it might overcome the traction if I gave it the gas in the dirt. As I grew accustomed to the new throttle response I found that this wasn't a problem for me, at least not on the fairly decent dirt roads I rode on so far. I did notice a reduction in the off throttle engine braking, and it may or may not be an issue on steeper declines in softer material. I am no expert in off road technique, so this may not be an issue, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
The S mode is where the real fun is. The bike now pulls much harder at 4k and up, and is super flexible along the entire RPM range. I found that the reduced engine braking made a huge difference in my ability to manage speed going into corners, and the on-off throttle transitions are now much more fluid and the occasional jerkiness I used to have is completely gone.
All in all, the improvements in S mode are absolutely worth the money. I typically ride mostly on pavement, so I will likely spend the majority of the time in S mode and I love how it runs now. T mode seems to be an improvement too, and since I bought the bike to allow for travel on dirt roads, I will continue exploring how this mode operates for my level of off roading and update this report if I find anything that gives me pause.
One last note: I think that the reflash must have affected my speedometer somehow. Not sure what the cause would be, but everytime I check my speed I find that it says I'm going at least 10 MPH faster than I used to go on the same roads! ::025::
As for the results of the reflash, I was surprised at the difference in performance in T mode. I wasn't expecting the throttle response to be that much crisper down low, and at first was concerned that it might overcome the traction if I gave it the gas in the dirt. As I grew accustomed to the new throttle response I found that this wasn't a problem for me, at least not on the fairly decent dirt roads I rode on so far. I did notice a reduction in the off throttle engine braking, and it may or may not be an issue on steeper declines in softer material. I am no expert in off road technique, so this may not be an issue, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
The S mode is where the real fun is. The bike now pulls much harder at 4k and up, and is super flexible along the entire RPM range. I found that the reduced engine braking made a huge difference in my ability to manage speed going into corners, and the on-off throttle transitions are now much more fluid and the occasional jerkiness I used to have is completely gone.
All in all, the improvements in S mode are absolutely worth the money. I typically ride mostly on pavement, so I will likely spend the majority of the time in S mode and I love how it runs now. T mode seems to be an improvement too, and since I bought the bike to allow for travel on dirt roads, I will continue exploring how this mode operates for my level of off roading and update this report if I find anything that gives me pause.
One last note: I think that the reflash must have affected my speedometer somehow. Not sure what the cause would be, but everytime I check my speed I find that it says I'm going at least 10 MPH faster than I used to go on the same roads! ::025::
cavenger
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It's the ECU flash a warranty killer?
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No actual example I know of in 6 years on this forum.
However, the "what ifs" have stopped some from enjoying proper fueling.
However, the "what ifs" have stopped some from enjoying proper fueling.
cavenger said:
As Snake wrote, we have heard zero reports of having this kill a warranty. Plus, to do so, the dealer would need to connect the problem you are having with the mod.
For more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act