Advice needed about crash bars.

[StefanOnHisS10]

Hey everyone!

I am considering crash bars for my trusty companion. I've got the original ones that come with the worldcrosser package. They work well on a slow fall on flat surface, experience tought me that... But i am going more off road. Where i live that means dirt, sand and grass fields, mostly flat since we have no mountains or proper hills. The original ones are only useful on a pavement so an upgrade it is.

I've ruled out a few already (GIVI&Touratech). Looking into SW Motech (2,5mm thick stainless), Outback motortek (2mm thick steel), Altrider (?mm stainless) and the OEM Yamaha crashbars 23P-F43B0-00-10 black (no info at all). I like the built quality from Altrider with the connection in the middle, like the look of Outback's.

Who can give me the missing details from above, and looking for first hand experience with them.
Please keep in mind that i will never hit big rocks or a giant boulder since we have none .
Price isn't that important, that's third after quality and looks.

Stefan.

 

[Cycledude]

My first Tenere came with Yamaha bars, later transferred them to my new 2018, but if I was buying new crash bars it most likely would be the Alt Riders because they seem to offer much more protection than the Yamaha bars.

 

[HeliMark]

Doing a search will bring up a lot of opinions on those bars. All I can say, is I had AltRider bars on my bike, and they did a fantastic job of protecting the bike, through numerous off-road falls. All I ever did was place a piece of cardboard behind the bars, hit it with spray paint, and beyond two feet, you couldn't see the battle scars.

 

[Sierra1]

These are what I have. They'll keep the bike off of the ground, and they anchor at the factory hard spot. They allow battery access without bar removal. No material info though.

 

[Mak10]

I have Givi and they have done their job well. Mine are starting to show some wear and tear, and I will probably be replacing them in the future. Some don’t have protection up high enough for me. I’m seriously looking at the
T-Rex bars.

T-Rex Racing 2012 - 2020 Yamaha Super Tenere Engine Guard Crash Cages Skid Plate Combo

T-Rex Racing 2012 - 2020 Yamaha Super Tenere Engine Guard Crash Cages Skid Plate Combo

www.t-rex-racing.com

 

[ballisticexchris]

I have the ALTRider. The upper bars have saved my radiators already. If I was to replace them I would do as Mark suggests and get the T-Rex setup.

 

[Nomad]

I went with Outback Motortrek after watching their video. It's a tad dramatic but it proves the point about their crash bars.

 

[Kurgan]

AltRider are way too proud of their product - the lower kit is ~$480 USD and the complete lower/upper is just under $900 USD. That's simply ridiculous.

As Mak10 linked above, take a good look at the T-Rex kit. Their crash bar kit (which is upper and lower and provide more coverage) is $300 USD (1/3 the cost of AltRider!) or you can buy the crash bar kit and their skid plate for a package price of $500 USD. The bars are made of stainless steel and include replaceable alloy skid plates at key touch down points.

 

[WJBertrand]

Crash tested my Givi bars (both sides) they did their job. Why did you eliminate them?


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[gunslinger_006]

My givi bars have not been asked to do much, as all ive done is tip the bike over and pick it back up carefully as a test. Heavy mfer.

I consider crash bars to be expendable parts.

Think about it: if the bars dont get deformed, all that force goes into the frame mounts...which is not what you want.

I want the crash bars, in a hard drop, to deform (plastic deformation) or else the frame gets it all.

This is the issue for delrin frame sliders. They slide great but on a hard vertical drop, they have zero give. Lots of bent frames due to frame sliders over the years.

Just food for thought.

 

[magic]

I went with Outback Motortrek after watching their video. It's a tad dramatic but it proves the point about their crash bars.

I have the AltRider upper and lower combination with a Hepco Becker skid plate. This Outback Motortrek setup with their skid plate really looks good. I like the way the skidplate is mounted to the crash bars and the price seems reasonable. I never heard of these before.

Yamaha XT1200Z Super Tenere – Protection Combo

Outback Motortek offers protection for your Yamaha XT1200Z Super Tenere's engine and its components such as exhaust header, oil cooler, water pump which may be badly exposed during off-roading without our skid plate.

usshop.outbackmotortek.com

 

[StefanOnHisS10]

Thank you all so much for the responses. I truly appreciate all the comments! I have been investigating built quality and used materials of a lot of crash bars. Didn’t know about the t-Rex ones. Looks like a serious candidate. I have been watching a lot of YT-video’s, like the one @Nomad added. I do agree that the Altriders are expensive with the top added but they do look good quality and well engineered.

@WJBertrand i found a video where they were shown and explained in detail and the outcome wasn’t to good. That’s the reason.
The Touratech’s are too thin tubed for me.

Nevers heard of the one’s @Sierra1 has got, so I’ll be investigating those also.

If anyone has got something to add, please do so.

Stefan

 

[Sierra1]

Yeah, I don't know "real world" how they're going to hold up. But, they're nice, and compact. . . . I don't plan on any hardcore crashing. (who does) I've been fortunate enough to have not tested them yet (fingers crossed).

 

[Saint rob]

I wouldn't bother with the stainless steel SW Motech ones, I had a low speed off on the road and wiped out the fan & radiator and smashed the left side fairing and and air scoop after they deformed and sprung back out - they were a VERY expensive mistake

 

[gunslinger_006]

I wouldn't bother with the stainless steel SW Motech ones, I had a low speed off on the road and wiped out the fan & radiator and smashed the left side fairing and and air scoop after they deformed and sprung back out - they were a VERY expensive mistake

Damn really? Were they loose or something? SW has a pretty good rep.

 

[Saint rob]

Damn really? Were they loose or something? SW has a pretty good rep.

Definitely not loose, I’d only had the bike 10 days and had fitted them the week before. They did look good though - well at least they did before I sent it down the road and all because a farmer couldn’t keep his bloody sheep in a field
The adjustable SW Motech footpegs I got (to replace the one that snapped off in the accident) are a quality bit of kit

 

[Gerard]

I'm using Hepco & Becker bars after trying the OEM bars and the Touratech bars. The Touratech bars in particular were next to useless. The mount points are too far apart and it just folded after a minor fall.

 

[Nikolajsen]

I have the OEM.
And I put it down on left side 3 times (from standing still, due to my fucking short legs (inseem 28"))
It will be on the sidecase, crashbar and handlebar.
The crash bar have miner paint loss, but not a scratch other places (sidecase have plactic corners), and crash bar did not move a bit.

If you are on rocky terrain, or other with bump, it is of course possible that a rock will puncture the radiator/fan, but that will also happen if the crashbar bend, or the rock hit in between.

I'm happy with the OEM

 

[MattR]

AltRider are way too proud of their product - the lower kit is ~$480 USD and the complete lower/upper is just under $900 USD. That's simply ridiculous.

As Mak10 linked above, take a good look at the T-Rex kit. Their crash bar kit (which is upper and lower and provide more coverage) is $300 USD (1/3 the cost of AltRider!) or you can buy the crash bar kit and their skid plate for a package price of $500 USD. The bars are made of stainless steel and include replaceable alloy skid plates at key touch down points.

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Jeez! But they’re fugly!!


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[Mak10]

What some call fugly-some call rugged.