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heberhog

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I'm interested in getting an action camera and would like to know others thoughts. i have had the gopro before but it's pretty old and not sure i want to go back to it. What does everyone use and why?
 

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I have a Sony action camera equivalent to the GoPro and seldom use it.

The bike is set up with a set of front and rear dash cams that are always on and the chip will hold something like 7+ hours of video. Nowhere near the quality of an action cam, but every now and then it'll capture a situation that I want to be able to show like this Dodge barreling along the middle of a forest trail.
https://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?threads/onboard-traffic-video-recorder.23210/
 

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there are several knock off 4k action cameras in the 50$ range, which makes the justification of a GoPro or other premium camera price seem ridiculous...
I think a more important question is: why do you want to do video the road? is it for yourself? then rock on...
if you think you are going to post to the youtubes and share with lots of people, that time has past...
even the well established motovoggers are of late, IMO, producing boring content...
then on top of that is the time for editing and finding music and all the other WORK that goes into making a video segment that YOU would want to watch a second or third time six months or a year after you think you are finished...

I probably have more to say but I'm going stop here.....
 

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i have been thinking of going the Sony route but still haven't decided if i even want to bother. I would like to just record some the stuff that i see and where I go and have no intentions of putting it on YouTube. I'm not that technically savvy to do all the editing.
 

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I think a more important question is: why do you want to do video the road?
Barkinglizard brought up a great question that led to why I installed dash cams in both my bike and truck. The answer was to show what happened when something in traffic happens. As most of us know, those situations can frequently lead to "he said / she said" when the police or insurance become involved.

Examples: A risk in city driving all too regularly comes from idiots changing lanes into another vehicle, which can become "he said / she said" cases. I bring one up because it happened several cars in front of me last night. More common are parking lot disputes. In another example of a couple weeks ago in Baltimore, my 6'3" moose son was standing in a parking lot waiting for me and his wife and a driver literally tried to nudge past him to get into a parking spot. Amazingly, the ass cut the wheel hard and then stopped with a front tire on my son's foot as my son realized what was happening - fortunately wearing his steel toe work boots. Tim got his foot free and tempers exploded as the driver said my stepped in front of his car and threatened to call the police if we didn't leave. I pointed out the dash cam in the truck which just shut down the argument, the asshole didn't say another word, left in a huff, and screeched into another parking spot that opened up. I've been rear-ended twice while commuting for 30+ years and was fortunate that neither resulted in controversy, but people in DC all too frequently pull U turns in front of oncoming traffic. What if the offender takes off after knocking me down?

In addition to shutting down arguments, the dashcams will have the license plate for the police and collision for the insurance.
 

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Barkinglizard brought up a great question that led to why I installed dash cams in both my bike and truck. The answer was to show what happened when something in traffic happens. As most of us know, those situations can frequently lead to "he said / she said" when the police or insurance become involved.

Examples: A risk in city driving all too regularly comes from idiots changing lanes into another vehicle, which can become "he said / she said" cases. I bring one up because it happened several cars in front of me last night. More common are parking lot disputes. In another example of a couple weeks ago in Baltimore, my 6'3" moose son was standing in a parking lot waiting for me and his wife and a driver literally tried to nudge past him to get into a parking spot. Amazingly, the ass cut the wheel hard and then stopped with a front tire on my son's foot as my son realized what was happening - fortunately wearing his steel toe work boots. Tim got his foot free and tempers exploded as the driver said my stepped in front of his car and threatened to call the police if we didn't leave. I pointed out the dash cam in the truck which just shut down the argument, the asshole didn't say another word, left in a huff, and screeched into another parking spot that opened up. I've been rear-ended twice while commuting for 30+ years and was fortunate that neither resulted in controversy, but people in DC all too frequently pull U turns in front of oncoming traffic. What if the offender takes off after knocking me down?

In addition to shutting down arguments, the dashcams will have the license plate for the police and collision for the insurance.
thanks for sharing this. that is definitely a plus at having a video going.
 
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Thanks for starting this thread. I was at the motorcycle show a few weeks back and saw this setup:

https://www.innovv.com/innovv-k2

I'm very much considering it. Drive cams can be good or bad. But the way hit and runs are happening these are something to consider.

The camera helps but their still the uninsured, underinsured. I have a creed I try to live by. What ever goes down after I throw my leg over my bike is my fault. I have to live with the consequences.
That's why I have uninsured motorist. It sucks but it's the world we live in.
 

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not to detract from any of the comments posted here up to the last one by Checkswrecks...

An action camera makes for a lousy dash cam. Yes, better than nothing, but it is definitely
better to have an actual dash cam dedicated system hard wired into your ride... And there
are numerous quality units out there and threads illustrating their finer points...
I fully support dash cams.....

an action camera is better for that special road, that unique view, that extra twist that tells a story...
like this:


one run, two cameras, hours of editing.....
 

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Thanks for starting this thread. I was at the motorcycle show a few weeks back and saw this setup:

https://www.innovv.com/innovv-k2

I'm very much considering it. Drive cams can be good or bad. But the way hit and runs are happening these are something to consider.

That's why I have uninsured motorist. It sucks but it's the world we live in.
This and the one I got are super generic at this point.
Hope this link will help with installation if you decide to go with them. https://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?threads/onboard-traffic-video-recorder.23210/
 
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ballisticexchris

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Thank you for the install procedure!! It's nice to have a few options available. I have to say I was impressed by the video quality of the INNOVV. These cameras are getting better every year.
 

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Anyone using a full time camera on your bike? If you are, what model, where do you have it mounted, do you have a remote control to start and stop? Pictures would be great!
 

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Anyone using a full time camera on your bike? If you are, what model, where do you have it mounted, do you have a remote control to start and stop? Pictures would be great!
I've a hero 7 Black for some time now, not really "full time" mounted, but easily on and off the bike in seconds, just see pics :

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- Original GoPro clip with rubber plug and alloy rail from eBay mounted with original 3M adhesive, secured by rubber cap with nut screwed through the windshield (I know it hurts, I am a naughty boy).
- No battery inside, USB cable to onboard 12V and so no more filming time restrictions due to battery's capacity.

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- No remote control needed 'cause there's no difficulty to one press the record button from above the windshield to start and stop recording.
- Camera screen is visible through the windshield so WYSIWYG any time.
- As the Hero 7 Black's Hypersmooth does the job, the image is properly stabilized without too much loss for a sport camera, even when riding poor paved roads or off road IMHO of course, I'm not an ultimate professional videographer :D

Feel free to see by yourself the final result after editing, but without any software re-stabilization (originally filmed in 2.7 k 50 fps and already posted elsewhere in this forum) :

 

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I run a Sena 10C Pro. I know is not an "action" camera but I like it b/c it gives me full bluetooth for my phone, music, gps as well as audio between bikes in additon to the camera. As a bonus anything that comes into the helmet audio (music phone rider bluetooth is recorded into the video with no extra work. I run it in loop mode like I would a dashcam.
 

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I run a GoPro Hero 7 Black (hypersmooth stabilization is great) on a chin-mount on my helmet, and a Cardo Packtalk Bold JBL for comms/music. Separation of duties means if one doesn't work the other one isn't also disabled.

Benefits:

Hypersmooth Stabilization at 2.7k and 60FPS
Can run a cable to either device for longer rides
Can take the GoPro off the helmet for other uses
Can take the Cardo off the mount for storage/security
Can use it on any bike I'm riding so it's not hard mounted to anything in particular
Cardo speaker quality is second to none
"Hey Cardo" and "Ok Google" functionality
Mesh comms

Having said that, I plan on adding a dashcam proper to my bike, I just haven't yet. I have always just used the GoPro as a dash cam (and it has helped make dealing with insurance companies a lot less painful the times I've needed to use it, cops too).

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