barney fife
New Member
Ride someones bike that has it done. How many guys do you need to tell you how great his tune is? Best improvement in engine performance for the buck I have ever done.
A More Affordable Flash Option?
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Madscrapper85
Active Member
Didn't you know Chris is the master of all, has never meant a fourm post his negativity couldn't make better.... Almost tired of reading his BS at this point
Tenman
Well-Known Member
Put him on ignore
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ballisticexchris
Guest
Geeze, so much for me sharing my positive experiences with the stock fueling. You have never met me and can make that assumption? Too bad you see all my posts as a negative. Probably would be better to put me on ignore.
My bike runs so well now I'm happy with it. At some point I might go with a re-flash but for now I'm pleased with what I have.
2talltoo
Well-Known Member
Chris, you were worried about gas mileage with this mod. My bike registered 51 MPG yesterday and took 2.46 gallons for a 128 mile excursion. Before and after fill ups were at the same pump and by that method my bike was dead on at 51 MPG. I might have gotten 52-53 MPG before.
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ballisticexchris
Guest
That's pretty dang good. At some point I might do this mod. Right now I'm unable to ride for the next least 6 months or so.
Madscrapper85
Active Member
The thought has occurred but I keep waiting for the redeeming post to happen. The places you post and the way you come off is how I make my statement. Your in a board about a tuning reflash talking about how you've never had a problem. Similar to how you post in other threads in my short time on this fourm I have seen I'm not the only one with this view point in your input. At this point I have started skimming anything written by you because of this. I do not think silencing anyone is a good thing but calling out bs doesn't offend me.
What it all comes down to is. . . . if you like the way your bike runs, leave it alone. If you don't like the way it runs. . . . fix it so you do. Duh. But, one size does not fit all. I suppose it's natural for us to want everybody to think the way we do. . . . not gonna happen. I don't know if 2tall's tune gave him 51mph or not, definitively. I do know definitively that higher altitude will allow for higher mpg. (less oxygen = less fuel used) Arguing over a re-map seems pretty silly. . . . do it or don't. I love the way my motor reacts to my throttle input, makes power, and the engine braking it has, as is. Not going to change a thing. I learned my lesson with my FJ. Changed the exhaust, re-jetted, and changed the power delivery. It made more HP, but changed the rpm of where it was delivered. I liked the "pre" more than the "post" result(s). If you're on the fence, find a member who has made the change, and is willing to let you test it. That way you can make an informed decision.
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ballisticexchris
Guest
Fair enough Sir.
WJBertrand
Ventura Highway
Lighten up guys, we're just having a friendly discussion and sharing experiences with these great bikes. Everyone's preferences and perceived values will be different and no one is trying to convince anyone else what they should do.
To add a bit of data; I've experienced no noticeable effect on fuel mileage (after only one tank so far) and admittedly my riding pattern has changed a bit since I started working from home (before the virus thing hit). More data to follow in the weeks ahead.
To add a bit of data; I've experienced no noticeable effect on fuel mileage (after only one tank so far) and admittedly my riding pattern has changed a bit since I started working from home (before the virus thing hit). More data to follow in the weeks ahead.
At that time, when I started the post, it seems that it was not received by the community. Today, how better is the reflash is still being discussed (subjectivities are discussed) .... if someone had done that "little test" ... before and after the flash, the subjectivities would have been left aside and they would have gone on to concrete facts .. "numbers, not sensations" ....
SELF-TEST
could someone make a self-test of the reflash of the ecu and the change of the exhaust, that is to say to test before and after the changes how many seconds are won or not, I think it would not be interesting a test of 0-100kmh or 0-60 mph , it would not be interesting maximum speed either. It...
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WJBertrand
Ventura Highway
I don't think the primary reason to re-flash the ECU is for objectively measurable performance increases. At least for me the motivation was to improve the subjective driveability, that is, the smoothness of throttle application and power delivery. If there's a small gain in performance that's just gravy in my view. There are lots of cases where an engines in various types of vehicles are souped up to improve 1/4 mile times, 0-60 acceleration and top speed, sometimes significantly, but the engine behavior is made so rough and difficult to drive, it becomes unpleasant to operate.
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2talltoo
Well-Known Member
51 mpg is definitely all about altitude.
2talltoo
Well-Known Member
It's one of the reasons for the mod. I'll accept the loss on HP for the canyon carving.
330 hp diesel pushers are OK at sea level but don't bring them here. Big block 400 or more for the Rockies.
330 hp diesel pushers are OK at sea level but don't bring them here. Big block 400 or more for the Rockies.
WJBertrand
Ventura Highway
So the flash mod, if that's what you're referring to, will not reduce HP. It just smooths the delivery.
2talltoo
Well-Known Member
ALTITUDE reduces HP.
WJBertrand
Ventura Highway
Yes of course. Your statement could be interpreted that the HP loss was somehow related to the mod. Thanks for clearing that up.
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SkunkWorks
Well-Known Member
I think he meant: "I'll deal with the loss of HP for living at altitude, because I get to do some awesome canyon-carving here in Colorado"
I agree with him!
My S10 gets mpg in the low 50's when I'm out tooling around the mountains. (50-53 mpg)
When I used to live in Phoenix, and rode my FJ1200 (with CV-carburetors) around Arizona, whenever I went up into the high-country to ride for a day my fuel mileage increased by around 5-6 mpg average.
Living up here in Colorado for almost a decade now, I'm used to how the bikes/cars feel and react.
Whenever I attend a rally or some trip on the bike to sea-level, the bike suddenly feels like I've added a supercharger to it!
I agree with him!
My S10 gets mpg in the low 50's when I'm out tooling around the mountains. (50-53 mpg)
When I used to live in Phoenix, and rode my FJ1200 (with CV-carburetors) around Arizona, whenever I went up into the high-country to ride for a day my fuel mileage increased by around 5-6 mpg average.
Living up here in Colorado for almost a decade now, I'm used to how the bikes/cars feel and react.
Whenever I attend a rally or some trip on the bike to sea-level, the bike suddenly feels like I've added a supercharger to it!
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ballisticexchris
Guest
WOW!! That is one clean bike!! I sure do miss the days of tuning my bikes with jetting. It was so much simpler. I'm down to one carbed bike.