14+ pannier rack changes. I did something dumb.

[Pdrhound]

So I ordered panniers for my beloved 2012 tenere. I have wanted the holan panniers and after breaking off my stock pannier (dumb mistake number 1) I decided to pull the trigger.

Then I stumbled upon a very good deal on a '14. I always thought I'd replace my tenere with another tenere, but being 2012-2013 is getting older and older it seems dumb to not be upgrading parts for pre '14 tenere.

So my question is, what difference will there be attaching the 2012 pannier racks to a 14+? I apologize for no specific details as i have not even touched my new panniers yet.

 

[Coyote]

As far as i can tell, there is no difference luggage wise through all model years. Whatever fits on a 1st gen will fit on a 2nd gen and vice-versa.

 

[Sierra1]

What Coyote said. Guys have been switching stuff over for years. There's a few things that can't make the jump. Windshield, winglets, and maybe side stand come to mind. . . . but, not much else.

 

[escapefjrtist]

I moved a set of Holan's from my '12 to the '18 without major issues. In fact, the pannier mounts lined up better than they did on the '12. Take your time and leave the hardware loose when installing. I also added a couple washers as spacers to better square up the mounts.

The installed package is nice and tidy...overall width is less than my FJR. Enjoy!

Adding: I took a dremel to my GEN I winglets and installed them on the '18. Easy to do!

~G

 

[WJBertrand]

The only thing I’ve heard is some question of interference from the ES model’s right side cover on one of the aftermarket sets, forget which one. The standard models are the same across generations.


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[Longdog Cymru]

What Coyote said. Guys have been switching stuff over for years. There's a few things that can't make the jump. Windshield, winglets, and maybe side stand come to mind. . . . but, not much else.

You can fit a Gen 1 screen to a Gen 2 if you remove the adjustment Iron ware and pack out the 2 lower mountain screws by 1/4” You actually don’t really need to pack them out but the screen may just touch the bodywork ever so slightly.

 

[yoyo]

The only thing I’ve heard is some question of interference from the ES model’s right side cover on one of the aftermarket sets, forget which one. The standard models are the same across generations.


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I know the Touratech racks have a different set up for the ES but supply the parts to fit either bike. Not an issue if you are buying new but something to think about if you are picking up a used set.

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[Madhatter]

my Touratech racks swapped over from my 12 to my 19 no issues .

 

[bimota]

What Coyote said. Guys have been switching stuff over for years. There's a few things that can't make the jump. Windshield, winglets, and maybe side stand come to mind. . . . but, not much else.

side stands are a swop got a gen2 stand on my gen 1

rob

 

[cycledelic relic]

It was probably the side stand "foot" or enlarger pad the first poster was referring to. Those are different.

 

[Pdrhound]

Sounds like good news. Missed that bike, but when i do upgrade, ill do a non ES and do suspension right up front

 

[fac191]

ES racks are deff not the same as non ES.

 

[WJBertrand]

ES racks are deff not the same as non ES.

May be true for some aftermarket brands, but the Yamaha factory racks are the same for both. When I ordered mine, there was no choice between ES and non ES and they fit fine on my ES.

 

[regder]

May be true for some aftermarket brands, but the Yamaha factory racks are the same for both. When I ordered mine, there was no choice between ES and non ES and they fit fine on my ES.

Pretty sure the Givi Trekker Outback frames are the same as well.

 

[Pdrhound]

Well they are here and I'm in a hurry. (As always). They didn't come with any instructions.

 

[Pdrhound]

Or new bolts for mounting to sub frame footpegs

 

[Pdrhound]

Ok. Does the arm the the pedal go on the outside or inside?

 

[Pdrhound]

Passenger side rack off 3/8 of an inch on back bolt........

 

[escapefjrtist]

On my '18, the LH rack support is mounted outside the passenger peg. The RH side is mounted inside the peg. Depending on your selected spacers for upper mounts, racks will shift side to side. I experimented with stacked nuts for the LH and RH spacers.

~G