What DON’T you like about your S10?

Longdog Cymru

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In the UK and I guess a lot of mainland Europe, we have nowhere close to the access for off road riding as you appear to have in the US and other parts of the world. In fact I’d go as far to say in parts of the UK it’s difficult for off road riding, not impossible, but difficult.
Adventure bikes also fit well for the taller, bigger built person and make for a better distance bike than a full on tourer type bike.
Absolutely spot on! I used to race Enduros and I would happily ride off-road on a nice 250cc - 400cc bike kicking out 30-40bhp weighing under 100kgs but there is no way I would take 265kgs of motorcycle off-road.

I use my S10 for touring and just riding for pleasure and it suits me just fine.
 

Jlq1969

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I don’t like at all that this anchorage is off-center, seems out of place Yamaha invented a cover to hide it, which is expensive just to cover it up.
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bars are a little far forward, seat is angled from factory.

factory hard bags kinda suck- latches to attach to bike are wonky.

heavy

some buffeting particularly in cross winds


overall- fit is personal preference and you're gonna mess with that on any bike you spend real time on. mostly it's an incredible machine.
 

Fennellg

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The bike is long in the tooth in design. Could use some updating.

1. A nice bright color display. Think GS.
2. A quick shifter “ “
3. Apple car play and android auto.
4. Given the average age of our riders a dct Option,
5. A lower or adjustable ride height.
6. More horse power.
7. A redesigned wind screen. It’s hard to change.
8. A more universally pleasing seat.
9. Stock led head light
10. Longer valve adjustment requirements
 

Highwayman

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Alot of good points here. Other than the usual of less weight and a little more power out of a 1200.... I wish they could of opened up the top a little for valve adjustments. Its an ADV (large at that) and opening up the area under the tank a couple of inches wouldn't of been a big deal.

OAN, I wish more manufacturers (on non serious models) would have gone with a rocker system like my 2nd gen Kawasaki ZX7s. No cam removal for adjustments was sooooo nice on those bikes.
 

yen_powell

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Hmmmmmm?? I could use a DCT equipped S10 as my clutch hand thumb is tired…very tired from pulling a clutch lever over the last 51 years.
My left thumb joint complains when using the clutch (it seems quite heavy for a hydraulic system, my Versys was feather light and a cable), a result of age and 39 years of pulling a clutch in and out nearly every day in usually damp weather has knackered the joint I think. However, it hasn't bothered me as much since my right elbow problem started this year, it is a sort of tennis elbow type thing, but what it actually does whilst riding is mean I can't bend my arm after about 30 minutes holding the handlebars say for instance if I go to lift my visor. The minor pain from this has taken my mind off the thumb joint which I am counting as a plus.

My only other gripe with the bike is I find the side stand too long.
 

Paul466

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Maybe what don’t you like is a bit strong so maybe I should include what would you change if you could. So here goes, this is the one thing that I would like to change and it is……. The wheels!

If I could, I would have a pair of cast wheels for mine, (I don‘t ride it off-road you see and cast wheel would be lighter), or failing that, a pair of BMW type tubeless spoked rims because the Yamaha wheels have that impossible to clean channel in the centre.
I wish the forks were more sophisticated inside, thicker tubes diameter for less flex when pushed off road would be good.
 

whisperquiet

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My left thumb joint complains when using the clutch (it seems quite heavy for a hydraulic system, my Versys was feather light and a cable), a result of age and 39 years of pulling a clutch in and out nearly every day in usually damp weather has knackered the joint I think. However, it hasn't bothered me as much since my right elbow problem started this year, it is a sort of tennis elbow type thing, but what it actually does whilst riding is mean I can't bend my arm after about 30 minutes holding the handlebars say for instance if I go to lift my visor. The minor pain from this has taken my mind off the thumb joint which I am counting as a plus.

My only other gripe with the bike is I find the side stand too long.
I had the same chronic left elbow pain with my Honda ST1300. The angles did not line up and was able to get relief with an ulnar strap. Similar to this.
 

Purificator81

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I wish the S10 was less reliable so that I have a lower bar of requirement to look at other bikes..
I wish it could attract less people asking about the best offroad tracks and more people who ask about the attributes/features of the bike...or at least to no necessarely think that you are poor or not able to buy the German ones....
 

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Just waiting to see when someone says they would like an "automatic" tranny like Honda's A/T. OMG
Yes really Wish I would have waited one more year for Honda to offer the Africa Twin with cruise control ,DCT and tubeless tires.
 

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I guess I don't understand why someone buys an adventure bike and doesn't take it off road? . . . .
I didn't know, or even heard of "adventure bikes" until I got on this forum. I had first seen the GS, thought it was fuggly, but liked it's capabilities. Learned that I didn't want anything from the spinning propeller brand. First saw a Tenere in the dealership with a set of OE bags mounted. Realized that it was the same type of bike as the GS because of the square silver bags. Already knew that the tuning forks brand was the way to go.

600lbs? No issue. The ST1300 is close, and the FJR is heavier. (Why doesn't anybody bitch about the FJR's wight) I knew the riding position was fine after riding a KLR. The durability, and capabilities sold me. Once again, tuning forks brand. I bought it without even taking it for a test ride. Knew it would be good, found out it was great.

My wish for "improvement"? Wider tires. I have ran out of tread, no chicken strips, without ever touching a peg when I can find the right road without traffic. Spokes don't bother me. She might even look funny now that I've got used to them if they changed to cast. Plenty of power unless I'm two-up, with bags, into a 40mph headwind. Weight? Anything over 5mph, and she loses 100lbs.
Basically, it comes down to what you want in a bike. Everything that y'all say that you want is already out there in other bikes. Not in any one bike, but all that stuff is out there. Go get it. Bet you come back. :cool:
 

Cycledude

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I didn't know, or even heard of "adventure bikes" until I got on this forum. I had first seen the GS, thought it was fuggly, but liked it's capabilities. Learned that I didn't want anything from the spinning propeller brand. First saw a Tenere in the dealership with a set of OE bags mounted. Realized that it was the same type of bike as the GS because of the square silver bags. Already knew that the tuning forks brand was the way to go.

600lbs? No issue. The ST1300 is close, and the FJR is heavier. (Why doesn't anybody bitch about the FJR's wight) I knew the riding position was fine after riding a KLR. The durability, and capabilities sold me. Once again, tuning forks brand. I bought it without even taking it for a test ride. Knew it would be good, found out it was great.

My wish for "improvement"? Wider tires. I have ran out of tread, no chicken strips, without ever touching a peg when I can find the right road without traffic. Spokes don't bother me. She might even look funny now that I've got used to them if they changed to cast. Plenty of power unless I'm two-up, with bags, into a 40mph headwind. Weight? Anything over 5mph, and she loses 100lbs.
Basically, it comes down to what you want in a bike. Everything that y'all say that you want is already out there in other bikes. Not in any one bike, but all that stuff is out there. Go get it. Bet you come back. :cool:
So the FJR is heavier I never would have guessed that. But I’m guessing the FJR seat is lower and it’s not as top heavy as the Tenere. Years ago I did take a FJR for about a 10 mile test ride.
 

Sierra1

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So the FJR is heavier I never would have guessed that. . . .
Claimed/listed weights:
Tenere: 575lb wet & 584lb wet
FJR: 583lb dry// 650lb wet & 644lb wet
I think you're right about how each bike sits making the difference feel. Apples & oranges.

EDIT: holy crap! According to Wikipedia, the ST1300/Pan weights are 699lbs (standard) & 721lbs (ABS) Talk about carrying your weight well. Never felt that heavy to me.
 
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