First oil change, oil light is staying on.

Ric H

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I'm new to the S10, but everywhere i read about oil changes, people say to follow the manual.3.4l is the amount needed with a filter change.NOT 4 qts. What gives? 4qts would be overfilling by almost half a liter. That's a lot.
 

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With the dry sump system, it turns out to not be exactly true. I'm tellin' ya'. . . . if I use less than the entire jug, my light comes on. I overfilled my Seca 550 once, and had oil come out, and go everywhere. Different set up.

But, you do what you're comfortable with. I've been told that I'm "not quite right".
 

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Thanks for all the feedback guys. Today I pulled the oil filter off just to satisfy myself that oil was indeed flowing through the engine. The filter was full of oil, and I wasted about 350ml to check it. I added about 300ml back into the engine, and I think I am just going to have to take it for a spin. I did fire it up and let it run for about 5 minutes, revved it some, and it sounds good. Of course I'm doing that thing where, when you're really listening, things start sounding wrong. Of course, the light is still on...

Someone asked about the sensor, and I have checked it over pretty thoroughly. No damage to it or the wiring, so I don't think I did anything bad to the sensor. I may end up digging into the bike just to check it though.

EDIT: And I just found a picture of the sensor, and it's actually a mechanical float type sensor... so not shocked it's stuck.
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Update: Finally said F it, and went for a ride, within 10 minutes the oil light went off. She runs great. I feel vaguely stupid. Just finished changing the final drive oil after that ride, since it was all warmed up now. That was easier than I expected.

Thank you to everyone that responded, I appreciate your time in helping what amounts to a total stranger. I have learned a great deal about this finicky ass sensor in the last couple of days.
 

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Update: Finally said F it, and went for a ride, within 10 minutes the oil light went off.
As I mentioned to you earlier in my replies, looks like your identical situation as mine ended with the same happy result, the oil
light is no longer on.
Glad to read all is in your favor.
Never feel vaguely stupid, there are solid people on this forum
who are very knowledgeable and eager to help. :cool:
 

Sierra1

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Huh? The oil pump will certainly move the oil any time the engine is running.
Yes, in my typical piss poor way of articulation. . . . I didn't describe it completely/correctly. If you add oil, start the engine, let it run. . . . it will not show up in the window. The bike has to be ridden. . . . I don't know for how long, or how far . . . . it may have to do with how the bike is ridden. . . . for the oil to show up in the window. As he found out.

Update: Finally said F it, and went for a ride, within 10 minutes the oil light went off. She runs great. I feel vaguely stupid. . . .
I've been riding bikes for a l-o-o-o-o-ng time. She is nothing like any of the others I've ridden, for better or worse, and she's my favorite. So don't feel stupid, she's not like the other kids on the block. I went through the same thing. Added 3.4-ish, started her up, started on a ride, oil light came on, and stayed on. I hadn't gone 100 yards. I turned around, parked her, checked the window. . . . no oil. Ended up adding the remaining .5qt. Light went off, and stayed of. Hmmmm, so it's that kind of party. So be it.

The true mechanics on here can explain why the dry sump system works this way. All I need to know is that it does.
 

DamonS

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Working on it yourself while under warranty. Might get your warranty voided.
manufacturers (in Canada anyhow) cannot void a warranty if you work on the bike yourself, and I many states it applies the same even with some very specific laws.
Service Advisors love to say it, but there is no provision in their warranty that says you have to use specific hands, experience, or tools. all you need to do is keep receipts of your work (oil and filter purchase) and record date, and mileage, and if something goes wrong, they have to prove that your work caused it directly.... like if you used the wrong oil, etc. if you change your oil and your fuel pump dies, the manufacturer has no claim.
 

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It's the same deal in the US. Under the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act, a warranty can't be voided by a manufacturer who issues a warranty simply because an owner does his own maintenance, and the dealership that sold you the bike can't make you come back there for service under the threat that it'll void your warranty if you don't. As always, it's a good idea to keep track of the maintenance you do, which helps your claim if a warranty issue does arise.
 

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Because if you use a non-Yamaha part that they can claim/prove caused a failure, that can be an issue.
 

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Because if you use a non-Yamaha part that they can claim/prove caused a failure, that can be an issue.
they have to prove that part directly caused the failure. for an oil filter to cause an oil light sensor to malfunction is a leap. if the oil filter actually caused the oil pump to lose prime or cause an actual problem that is a very tough battle to overcome. NO manufacturer has the right to force you to use vendor parts and holding your warranty over your head when you use non-OE parts constitutes force, i'm in business today thanks to that :)
 
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