Will you take the vaccine

Sierra1 said:

Having the virus, and recovering, is no different that getting the vaccine. . . . as far as antibodies go. They're have both been assigned 6-12 months of immunity. That's not going to get rid of covid permanently.

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Except the virus might kill you or give you long term health problems. I got it in July last year and am still off work recovering. It damaged my lungs and my spleen. One of my work colleagues had been on a ventilator for two months now.


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The long term effects are the biggest issue for me thats why i dont want to get it. Many of my work collegues are testing positive, and so many people not social distancing or wearing masks in London. Bozo seems to think the people living in London are the same crew who went through the Blitz. Well may be a small minority are but mostly not. London has no chance to pull together as other communities will. To many communication problems, religious views, conspiricy theories, you name it, all alive an well here. London drives the economy it has to get up and running quickly. Sadly its relying on its population.

fac191 said:

The long term effects are the biggest issue for me thats why i dont want to get it. Many of my work collegues are testing positive, and so many people not social distancing or wearing masks in London. Bozo seems to think the people living in London are the same crew who went through the Blitz. Well may be a small minority are but mostly not. London has no chance to pull together as other communities will. To many communication problems, religious views, conspiricy theories, you name it, all alive an well here. London drives the economy it has to get up and running quickly. Sadly its relying on its population.

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The long term effects of having the vaccine are unlikely to be as bad as the long term effects of having Covid.


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MattR said:

The long term effects of having the vaccine are unlikely to be as bad as the long term effects of having Covid.


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spot on

In Texas, the opening & closing of businesses depends on a 15% hospitalization rate. The media has been reporting that the rate has dropped, and still dropping, for a couple of weeks. The charts they show, displaying date v. cases, show a drastic drop in the rate But, the media has not assigned an actual percentage rate to it. And, the business are still closed. They used to report the percentage along with new cases/deaths. I can't help but think politics have creeped in for some reason. . . . just like with our recent power issues.

MattR said:

Except the virus might kill you or give you long term health problems. I got it in July last year and am still off work recovering. It damaged my lungs and my spleen. One of my work colleagues had been on a ventilator for two months now.

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Which is why I put in the caveat of "as far as antibodies go". Everybody that catches the virus does not display the same symptoms. Some never show symptoms. . . . others. . . . excruciating. But, regardless of severity, those that recover have the same antibodies. . . . whether their life returns to normal, or their misery continues.

I also totally agree with you in that the vaccine's side affects, will likely never match those of the virus. To me. . . . it's a no brainer to get the vaccine. . . . the alternative is unacceptable.

I wont hesitate to take it. I will even take the one with the chip in lol. Save me havine to have a mobe phone.

Sierra1 said:

Having the virus, and recovering, is no different that getting the vaccine. . . . as far as antibodies go. .

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It's not clear we can make that generalized statement yet. There are many vaccines that actually confer better protection than catching and recovering from the disease itself. Examples are:

"HPV, tetanus and pneumococcal vaccines all induce better immune response than a natural infection, while with some other diseases, an infection may produce more durable protection."

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RonH said:

Anyone have any guess on how far the cases will fall after all vaccines are done? My guess is zero. Too late now to save USA. It was too late the first day the first person brought it over here.

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Put the following into a Google search: johns hopkins covid tracker

We're already massively down and with two more vaccines being approved in the next week, it'll keep dropping.

MattR said:

In the UK, with 25% of the adult population now vaccinated (1st dose) we are seeing significant falls in infection rate and are about to release restrictions again

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And I think, what they are calling the UK, variant is the most prominent one there now (correct me if I'm wrong). In spite of that, infection rates are falling like a rock there. Here it the US the media continues the scare mongering about the UK variant (and others) saying it will become the prevalent strain here soon and then we're all doomed vaccine or not. The US media seems to think they are the only source of information and that readers/viewers are completely ignorant to what's going on outside of their narrative.

You may be absolutely correct. The thing is though, they (doctors) don't know. It may be another person-to-person thing. One person: 6 months. Another person: 2 years. We just don't know, and have to hope for the best.

Just got an email that I can get the vaccine. Problem is, it is from the medical group I used when I lived in Texas. Now live in Tennessee, Dang.

Sierra1 said:

In Texas, the opening & closing of businesses depends on a 15% hospitalization rate. The media has been reporting that the rate has dropped, and still dropping, for a couple of weeks. The charts they show, displaying date v. cases, show a drastic drop in the rate But, the media has not assigned an actual percentage rate to it. And, the business are still closed. They used to report the percentage along with new cases/deaths. I can't help but think politics have creeped in for some reason. . . . just like with our recent power issues.

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We've been talking about the relation of case counts to businesses re-opening and my daughter pointed out that politicians are the most CYA Cover Your Ass people in the world, who already got burned by trying to re-open too early last year.

Big front page article in today's Washington Post about the big Emergent Bio Solutions manufacturing facility starting to produce the new vaccines for Astra Zeneca and J&J in one of the worst parts of Baltimore. Talk about big time shit-show politics because none will go to the local residents!!! Even crazier, EBS had the State come in to give shots to the 300 people working to make vaccines (per the approved priority system) and because the State was the source they all got the Moderna shots. Can't wait to hear the accusations that will create.

Yes Bob, the distribution of this vaccine is disgusting and one sided. The only safe thing I'm able to do is avoid human contact outside my home as much as possible until it becomes available.

HeliMark said:

Just got an email that I can get the vaccine. Problem is, it is from the medical group I used when I lived in Texas. Now live in Tennessee, Dang.

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Road Trip!

HeliMark said:

Just got an email that I can get the vaccine. Problem is, it is from the medical group I used when I lived in Texas. Now live in Tennessee, Dang.

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C'mon. . . . I'll buy lunch.

ballisticexchris said:

Yes Bob, the distribution of this vaccine is disgusting and one sided. The only safe thing I'm able to do is avoid human contact outside my home as much as possible until it becomes available.

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I start teaching again in 3 weeks so can't keep avoiding people and last night found out that I've been searching for an appointment all wrong. Every few days after breakfast I've been dutifully going on the State website that has links to most of the providers in the State, following the links and then answering the same questions over and over. For the last couple of months!
ARGH

Got a tip to try joining the Facebook COVID Hunter group for my State and WOW. All sorts of stories about what has worked, when to call or not, and even a spreadsheet with tips for the various places offering shots. Little did I know:
Trying for State connected appointments after 6:59am is a waste because the call centers open at 7am.
Our big grocery chain doesn't process any attempts at more than 10 miles from a zip code.
Thursday (today) is basically a dead day.
Some hospitals give last minute appointments at 4 or 5pm to use up what they've opened.
etc.

Got on the phone this morning at 6:59 and was put into a que, rather than getting the usual recording that no further appointments were available today. Just that much was huge progress! After about an hour I had to drive so pressed 1 as instructed for a call-back. What I failed to do was unmute the phone from the night and I MISSED THEIR CALL!!! Talk about being pissed off BIG TIME!!! I'll hit it again tomorrow morning and just stay on hold.

So if you've got FB look to see if there is a similar group for where you live and join it.

Totally different than here. Where you live doesn't play into it. They even advertise to apply in multiple counties that you're willing to drive to. I wouldn't go to Dallas Co. though. Their organization is asinine. Denton Co. is the exact opposite. It must be ran by either Amazon or Chick-fil-A. 25 minutes on property. . . . including the 15 minute observation period.

Sierra1 said:

C'mon. . . . I'll buy lunch.

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Got to say, I am tempted. Need to see if I still have my Texas drivers license..

We accept all 50 states.