Will you take the vaccine

Has anybody seen the previews for the new covid movie. Can't remember the title, but saw that the movie was referring to covid-23. Personally, I think it's in very poor taste. . . . and way too soon.

The series Last Man Standing chose not to address covid on the basis that they know they will be syndicated, and they do not want to be responsible for dredging up bad memories. The latest season "started" with them three years from now. Makes sense to me.

Never heard of it, but Who want's to watch a movie about the misery many find themselves in? I hope if flops...

My wife received her first Moderna shot 2 1/2 hours ago. Painless and so far she feels fine. She is 66 years old. Currently Indiana is for people 65 years old and older. I am 5 months too young so patiently waiting for the next age group.

Sierra1 said:

So, one of the stories/rumors going around about the vaccine, is that the Government is placing a microchip in it so they can track people. If this is true. . . . this should put an end to "Silver Alerts" right?

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Its Bill Gates innit.

MattR said:

Hope you stay safe friend. A leading UK anti vaxer has just died of covid.


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Who was that Mattr ?

In the UK most of those who are anti-vaccination are from the BAME community, more concerned about fertility than safety and social responsibility.

I’m not sure if it’s most, nor if the reason is about fertility, but BAME communities in the UK are reportedly avoiding the vaccine in disproportionately high numbers. There are a number of local initiatives encouraging them to get the vaccine.

There is a reason. They are targeted. A constant stream of anti-vax information may have that effect.
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This is the sort of targeting they get. No mention of fertility or social responsibility though: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2021/02/06/croydon-became-hotbed-vaccine-misinformation/

Boris said:

I’m not sure if it’s most, nor if the reason is about fertility, but BAME communities in the UK are reportedly avoiding the vaccine in disproportionately high numbers. There are a number of local initiatives encouraging them to get the vaccine.

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That is a fairer representation.

What is BAME ?

Cycledude said:

What is BAME ?

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Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic
The acronym BAME stands for Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic and is defined as all ethnic groups except White ethnic groups. It does not relate to country origin or affiliation.

Cycledude said:

What is BAME ?

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Basically it is an isolating term used to make white British think they are more British than someone that does not look like them. Apparently they also think differently too, if we are going to make sweeping generalisations.

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Locally, and likely nationwide, there is a belief that "people of color" in the US, have a distrust of the vaccine due to experiments performed on black military members in the '40s. It's one of the reasons that there is a movement to have black celebrities get vaccinated on camera, showing it's safe. A form of peer pressure.

Everybody else claims the vaccine can not be safe due to the speed in which it was developed. . . . or the government is using it to track them. From what I've seen/read, the only reason that it was able to be developed so quick was by the use of computers. They were able to run tests by computer instead of having to using human test dummies, and waiting to see what happened.

For whatever the reason, people's resistance to vaccination is what's going to keep it from being eliminated.

Actually the groundwork was laid already but companies were just working on other vaccines. They just quickly switched to covid. Previous administrations, going back to Bush started a lot of this work mostly for bio-warfair defense reasons. They also ran the clinical phases in parallel instead of sequentially which is traditional. No steps were skipped.


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WJBertrand said:

Actually the groundwork was laid already but companies were just working on other vaccines. They just quickly switched to covid. Previous administrations, going back to Bush started a lot of this work mostly for bio-warfair defense reasons. They also ran the clinical phases in parallel instead of sequentially which is traditional. No steps were skipped.


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I believe that work started in 2014?? I know it wasn't recent.

PhilPhilippines said:

Basically it is an isolating term used to make white British think they are more British than someone that does not look like them. Apparently they also think differently too, if we are going to make sweeping generalisations.

(I had to look it up today too, but knew exactly what I would read because of the nature of the op)

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No it isn’t. It is a term used by the UK Government to collectively describe

• Arabic people
• Asylum seekers and refugees
• Asian or Asian British people
• Black (African/African Caribbean) or Black British people
• Chinese people
• Irish people (‘White Other’)
• People of mixed heritage
• Travellers and Gypsies
• People who identify as ‘White Other’ e.g. White Australian, White European

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I remember, back in school somewhere, that there were three races: caucazoid, mongoloid, and negroid. The latest I've read is now there are five: Caucazoid, Mongoloid, Negroid, Australoid, and Capoid.

It didn't make sense with three, and makes even less with five. It's not like one race has more lungs, hearts, bones, etc, etc. Take the skin off, and you're not going to be able to tell what "race" the person is. Not like we're comparing humans and Klingons.

I think it was a book written by Robert E. Heinlein, that talked about everybody looking the same in the "future" from mixing the races, and everybody would speak Esperanto. One big happy planet. Nice thought anyway.

Sierra1 said:

Has anybody seen the previews for the new covid movie. Can't remember the title, but saw that the movie was referring to covid-23. Personally, I think it's in very poor taste. . . . and way too soon.

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The name of the move is “Songbird”.
Deservingly so, it was a colossal flop!

That's the name. Gee, why wouldn't anybody want to watch a movie like that.

WJBertrand said:

Actually the groundwork was laid already but companies were just working on other vaccines. They just quickly switched to covid. Previous administrations, going back to Bush started a lot of this work mostly for bio-warfair defense reasons. They also ran the clinical phases in parallel instead of sequentially which is traditional. No steps were skipped.

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Pull up articles about messenger RNA (MRNA) vaccine history and development started in the 90's, so more than 20 years ago. It was a still relatively new idea when the DoD got interested 20 years ago and pumped a bunch of money into making it work. While it definitely needs computers to develop, so does everything about DNA/RNA, right down to the genealogical services like 23&Me. According to my daughter, the science is pretty simple to create an immune response. The hard part is making & testing enough variations of the messenger to figure which one in a thousand the actual virus will respond to when the messenger has done its' thing.