2017 ES | 5000 miles | Maintenance and Service

Rambler

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My 2017 ES has now just turned past the 5000 mile mark and an oil / final drive oil (?) change is now due.

Questions:
+ In regards to the warranty and it being the 1st full 'service' (after the initial 600mile service) would it be better to $pend and have the dealer carry out all the items listed in the manual? (Do they actually carry out all the items?)
+ Any impact on the warranty, if I don't have the dealer carry out the service

4000 mile Service items per the manual are:
Diagnostic System check / check for error codes
Clutch / check fluid and operation
Brakes / check fluid and operation
Brake Hoses / check for cracks, damage and replace as necessary (I have the RideOnADV longer brake lines for the Rox Risers)
Brake Fluid / change
Wheels / check rim, spokes. Tighten spokes
Tires / check tread, pressure,
Wheel Bearings / check
Swingarm pivot bearings / check & moderately repack with lithium soap based grease
Steering bearings / check & moderately repack with lithium soap based grease
Chassis fasteners / check all fittings and fasteners
Brake lever pivot shaft / apply silicon grease
Brake pedal shaft / apply lithium soap based grease
Clutch lever pivot shaft / apply silicon grease
Shift pedal pivot shaft / apply lithium soap based grease
Centerstand and side stand pivots / check and apply lithium soap based grease
Sidestand switch / check and replace as necessary
Front Fork / check of leakage, replace as necessary
Shock Assy / apply lithium soap based grease
Rear suspension link pivots / check and correct
Engine oil / change
Engine oil filter cartride / change
Cooling system / check coolant and any leakage
Final gear oil / check level and leakage
Front and rear brake switches / check operation
Throttle grip / check operation, play, lubricate wires
Lights, signals, switches / check. adjust headlight beams
 
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ballisticexchris

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I too am deciding if I will do it myself or take it to the dealer. I have found a lot of guys (on the forums) simply do not trust anyone to touch heir bikes and have horror stories to scare everyone from ever trusting a dealer.

I took mine in for it's first service and was very pleased. I felt I got my moneys worth. I'm at a point in my life that I'm more than happy to drop off my machine and let someone else do the work. If you have any concerns just put a dab of Cross Check on the stuff that needs to be removed. OTOH, if you enjoy wrenching do it yourself. I have the service manual and will decide when the time comes.

Best advice I can give is go to an established dealer that's been around for while. Find out who is working on your bike and let them know exactly what your expectations are.
 

SilverBullet

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You'll be lucky if they actually do 1/3 of that list.

Change brake fluid at 4,000 miles? Wow that's ridiculous.

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RCinNC

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There's no requirement that a dealership perform the maintenance on your bike, and doing it yourself won't void your warranty. It's not legal for a dealership to require that you return to them for maintenance, and if they tell you that you have to, they're lying to you. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act here in the US outlines what can and can't be required with warranties, if you're curious to research it.

How much a dealership may or may not actually do depends on the ethics of the dealership. If you have a shop you like to go to, and you trust them, then I wouldn't hesitate to take my bike to them for the service. If you don't have an established rapport with a dealer, and you don't know anyone who can recommend one to you, then you're pretty much going to have to rely on online reviews (like Google, or Yelp, or local bike forums) to choose someone.

There's a good argument to learning how to maintain your own bike. It helps you learn how everything works, it makes you very familiar with your bike so you can catch a small problem before it becomes a big problem, it gives you some confidence that a job was done because you did it personally, and it's a helluva lot cheaper than paying someone to do it for you. That said, there's no loss of manhood (as some guys will insinuate) if you'd rather have someone else do it. If I had a bottomless wallet and a shop I had unlimited confidence in, I'd probably never touch my bike except to ride it. There's really nothing on that 4000 mile checklist that an owner can't reasonably accomplish.

I do all my own maintenance with the exception of the valve check and adjustments. How much you can do yourself really depends entirely on how comfortable you are with tools, maintenance, etc. I'm not a gearhead, but I'm pretty confident doing all the things you have on your list, including removing front end to repack the steering head bearings, and removing and disassembling the forks. Between the service manual (the actual service manual, not the owners manual that comes with the bike), this forum, and Youtube videos, I feel pretty good about my ability to tackle all the maintenance items.
 

RCinNC

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Just for clarity for our non US brothers reading this post, Magnuson-Moss only applies to riders in the US; I don't know what the warranty laws are like in non-US countries.
 

bnschroder

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For the last 4 years I have been wondering if I should have gotten YES and then felt compelled to let a dealer to my service. Over 4 trouble-free years later I am now relieved I made the right choice saving the money and doing every service myself. My Tenere hasn't seen a dealership up close since it rolled out of one and I bet it saved me a lot of cash. But - I guess it could have ended differently.
I am a firm believer that if you always (and it has to be always) turn down extended warranties, you end up ahead. And I am saying that knowing that extended warranties are a big money maker for retailers.
 
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RonH

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Do your own. F**k warranty. They will mess up many things, even in a simple check. At 5000 miles all that is really needed is torque the spokes, check a few other bolts for being tight, which they will be, change oil, (filter and rear drive fluid already replaced at 600 miles, no need to touch), check TB sync (won't need more than a tweek if that, really not even needed), lube the brake and clutch lever pivots.
I believe that is it. There may be other items, like check brake pads, fluid levels, check tires, check fuel lines ect, all the stuff that they won't bother even checking at 5000 miles because none will need replacement. Check for errors in the ECM? Sure they will do that, all it takes is turn on the key and see the display.
Sorry if I seem a little sarcastic, but I will never understand going to a dealer for work that can be done myself, and I can do it myself and not mess up 6 things that were not messed up before service.
It won't void your warranty doing it yourself, but even if it did I don't care. I never want or use warranty as when they work on things they will mess up 6 things that were not messed up before. Never ending problems once you let the dimwits start.
 

Tenman

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I took my zrx1200 to the shop to replace the oil pan that got crushed loading it. When I went to check on it. The owners 15 yr old son was bolting things back up. The first ride I got about 5 miles and the oil plug fell out. I did a full lock powerslide at 50 in a curve. After I getting it home. I found several other loose bolts and the horn was dangling by the wires.The whole rear end of my bike was soaked in oil.
 
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