BMW GS Update

VRODE · May 30, 2021

bigbob said:
You can say “I have a pour sha!”

‘Zactly. And it’s “Paw sha” with the pinky extended.

Sierra1 · May 30, 2021

That's how I feel about the GS. Nobody is impressed when I tell them I ride a Tenere.

PhilPhilippines · May 30, 2021

Sierra1 said:
That's how I feel about the GS. Nobody is impressed when I tell them I ride a Tenere.

I am...

Checkswrecks · May 30, 2021

The Super Ten would be Godzilla where you live.

Sierra1 · May 30, 2021

PhilPhilippines said:
I am...

You're ahead of the game. . . . you actually know what one is. I was talking to a guy yesterday that rides a beautiful '07 Street Glide. After five minutes of describing the Tenere to him . . . . his take away was "so, it's a dual sport type of bike?"

bmac · May 30, 2021

steve68steve said:
Well, I drank the Koolaid about a month ago. IMO:

Super Tenere: Clutch engagement point more centered in range, friction zone larger, brakes better, first gear feels more linear, shifting seems smoother. Less stuff to go wrong.

1250 GSA: engine noticeably smoother with more hp and torque, switchable ABS, better dash and electronics, ride modes tunable and noticeably different characteristics switching between them. Mine came with hard luggage (and racks), heated grips, aux lights, crash bars, skid plate, and nav prep - all of which I had to add a la carte to my ST.

I've been enjoying both for the last month, but it's time to let the ST go, only because the 2 are so matched in size and mission that it seems redundant to have both. I might keep 2 bikes, but if one's a big ADV bike, the other will NOT be.

The ST is fully dialed in for me and I have lots of happy memories with it. It never disappointed me or stranded me. In times when things could have gone south, I was always presently surprised by its durability and capability. I realize I'm one big BMW reliability issue away from regret, but I'm having my YOLO German bike for now.

Congrats on the bike. Hopefully, yours will be as good to you as mine has been to me.

steve68steve · May 30, 2021

Sierra1 said:
But, and it's a Kardashian sized but. . . . I just can't trust the bike. With Yamaha, and to be honest. . . . any of the brands from Japan, I know that I will likely not have any issues with them. I just don't have the same faith with BMW. (from personal experience, not hearsay)

As a kinda weird comparison: One of the new Corvettes is $75k-ish. A new Porsche 911-Turbo (not the turbo-S) is $175k. The 911 claims to have more horsepower, and is about .5 seconds quicker to 60mph. Now, neither of these cars are my style, but. . . . being able to buy two 'Vettes for the price of one 911? That's a shit ton of extra money. . . . for what? I don't know Porsche's reliability record, but, I do know that their services are quite expensive. Also, I don't know where the nearest Porsche dealer is. But, I do know where three Chevy dealerships are. I'm not talking bad about the Porsche, I just want to know what that astronomical price gives me.

Everybody has their priorities, and that fine. Mine is bang for the buck. I'm not going to pay more for something, if I'm not going to get more of that something in return.

It's fine that you don't trust it, but that's a different thing than thinking there's no difference to justify the higher price of the BMW.

If you don't want to pay more for something, why don't you trade your ST in for a KLR?

Because an ST has shaft drive, ABS, ride modes, cruise control, more than 2x the hp, a freakin' gas gage and clock, and on an on. You can't buy a KLR with the same features as the ST. Does that mean the ST is "not worth it?"

You can't buy an ST with all the stuff that's standard on the BMW. That doesn't mean the BMW is a better or more reliable bike, or worth it to you. It just means you're conflating your lack of trust with lack of value.

Cycledude · May 30, 2021

Lots of folks seem to think my Tenere is a BMW, and lots of folks think my Goldwing is a Harley.

Sierra1 · May 30, 2021

steve68steve said:
. . . . You can't buy an ST with all the stuff that's standard on the BMW. That doesn't mean the BMW is a better or more reliable bike, or worth it to you. It just means you're conflating your lack of trust with lack of value.

You may be absolutely correct. If all the extra bells & whistles on the Beemer, that are not even available on the Yamaha, are what a person wants/needs, then you are correct, and the Beemer is the only choice. I'm not a bells & whistles kinda guy though. But, I am a reliability kinda guy, so the Yamaha was my only choice.

steve68steve · May 31, 2021

Sierra1 said:
You may be absolutely correct. If all the extra bells & whistles on the Beemer, that are not even available on the Yamaha, are what a person wants/needs, then you are correct, and the Beemer is the only choice. I'm not a bells & whistles kinda guy though. But, I am a reliability kinda guy, so the Yamaha was my only choice.

Mine, too. I have both.

VRODE · May 31, 2021

Checkswrecks said:
The Super Ten would be Godzilla where you live.

It is Godzilla in this household.

Sierra1 · May 31, 2021

Oh no, they say he's got to go. Go, go Godzilla!!

VRODE · May 31, 2021

Sierra1 said:
Oh no, they say he's got to go. Go, go Godzilla!!

I have contemplated building a small replica of Tokyo and placing it in the driveway......

Madhatter · Jun 3, 2021

so a friend and me stopped by the local multi brand dealer ,and like a moth to a flame I'm drawn to the BMW 1250 gs ...... I really need to ride one or rent one or something . put 120 miles on my Tenere yesterday , felt pretty good .

Sierra1 · Jun 3, 2021

Careful. . . . if you ride one, you might catch cooties, and have to buy one. They're all great in the beginning. Some stay great. . . . some don't.

PhilPhilippines · Jun 4, 2021

Madhatter said:
so a friend and me stopped by the local multi brand dealer ,and like a moth to a flame I'm drawn to the BMW 1250 gs ...... I really need to ride one or rent one or something . put 120 miles on my Tenere yesterday , felt pretty good .

It will be great I am sure. It is designed to be. It's the flaws that aren't...and they are either there in the course of time, or not...

NB: Just re-read my post. What Sierra1 said

Madhatter · Jun 4, 2021

in 11 days I leave for Colorado .will probably do close to 3 k miles . if I'm not loving this bike by my return who knows what I might do. the gps says from here to there is 932 miles so round trip is 1800 + miles . and 3 days in FairPlay , will do loop rides from there about 300 miles a day (maybe ) so I can see an easy 2700 mile trip . I just need seat time . and maybe a ride on a GS.

Madhatter · Jun 4, 2021

weird Texas weather and my new mustang conspire to keep me off the Tenere . and the beta on weekends is in cahoots with them too. poor Tenere is not feeling the love.

bmac · Jun 4, 2021

Madhatter said:
weird Texas weather and my new mustang conspire to keep me off the Tenere . and the beta on weekends is in cahoots with them too. poor Tenere is not feeling the love.

It is tough to choose the motorcycle during a hot summer when you have a fantastic performance car with AIR CONDITIONING!

Dirt_Dad · Jun 4, 2021

bmac said:
It is tough to choose the motorcycle during a hot summer when you have a fantastic performance car with AIR CONDITIONING!

I see you've typed letters in some specific order, but I don't have any idea how to interpret them?

Car over motorcycle?...as a choice?...for enjoyment?... I'm sure I'm misunderstanding something. Turning to Google Translate....

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