What tent?

PhilPhilippines · Apr 25, 2021

I am a belts and braces guy.

I set up camp on one occasion on a perfect summer's eve. I woke up to wind and torrential rain and hearing the plight of campers who had camped 50 meters upstream. Their tent had collapsed and were in a right state. They spent the night in my tent and sorted out the mess in the morning.

My Terra Nova Voyager, although expensive, shrugged it off. There was no warning of the storm that we were aware of and in the morning it was as peaceful as a baby again...

I love overengineering - especially in certain things.

Having said that, there is a certain joy in just getting a shitty old beater tent and not worrying about whether it will get spoiled or stolen.

PhilPhilippines · Apr 25, 2021

Mak10 said:
Speed and ease of setting up. Catching sleeves while pushing a pole through a fabric tube is frustrating. My opinion. Buy and use what you want.

Ah ok. It was just that you posted: "Modern clips that attach to the poles are better in every way." I thought you had some relevant tent-related scientific info we could use. Both have merits and drawbacks and vary from maker to maker IMHO.

Mak10 · Apr 25, 2021

FFS. For the ease of setting up, in possibly inclement weather, by one self, I think clips are better. For a tent that fits in the manner I pack my bike, I found one that works for me.

If you want a debate, find some other poor soul with nothing else to do.

My all time favorite tent is a Canvas Springbar, but at 75lbs is not going on my bike.

gunslinger_006 · Apr 25, 2021

I enjoy time in my hammock while my tent camping friends are still setting up. For ease of deployment they cant be beat. The only catch, and its a big catch: you must have trees or bring a stand (the tensa4 is amazing).

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ballisticexchris · Apr 25, 2021

Mak10 said:
FFS. For the ease of setting up, in possibly inclement weather, by one self, I think clips are better. For a tent that fits in the manner I pack my bike, I found one that works for me.

I'm with you on this one Mark. As soon as my Kelty wears out I am going with something like I previously mentioned:

Hyke & Byke Zion 2 Person Backpacking Tent

Or If i have the money, the Nemo or similar to what you are using. The last few camping trips of my Super Tenere have been getting lighter and quicker setup/tear down while still being comfortable.

Hammocks and tarps are what I used as a young man. I'm too old for that rough camping stuff unless forced into it in an emergency.

gunslinger_006 · Apr 25, 2021

Funny my bad back hates tent camping but i can make it work in a hammock.

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ballisticexchris · Apr 25, 2021

I hear you there!! Back in the 80's I carried around nothing but a small hammock on my KZ 550 and KZ 750 motorcycles. I used it exclusively when traveling around Mississippi and Louisiana. I have one I use when I go big camping but can only relax for an hour or so before it gets uncomfortable.

Sierra1 · Apr 25, 2021

This is what CW was using the bike trailer for.

Rush2112tenere · Apr 26, 2021

PhilPhilippines said:
I am a belts and braces guy.

I set up camp on one occasion on a perfect summer's eve. I woke up to wind and torrential rain and hearing the plight of campers who had camped 50 meters upstream. Their tent had collapsed and were in a right state. They spent the night in my tent and sorted out the mess in the morning.

My Terra Nova Voyager, although expensive, shrugged it off. There was no warning of the storm that we were aware of and in the morning it was as peaceful as a baby again...

I love overengineering - especially in certain things.

Having said that, there is a certain joy in just getting a shitty old beater tent and not worrying about whether it will get spoiled or stolen.

BMW GS’s are over-engineered, that’s why we ride S10’s.

Rush2112tenere · Apr 26, 2021

Sierra1 said:
This is what CW was using the bike trailer for. Wouldn’t go amiss, as a Bedouin harem.

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PhilPhilippines · Apr 26, 2021

Rush2112tenere said:
BMW GS’s are over-engineered, that’s why we ride S10’s.

"....badly-engineered in some areas, that's why we ride S10s" there proof read

PhilPhilippines · Apr 26, 2021

Mak10 said:
FFS. For the ease of setting up, in possibly inclement weather, by one self, I think clips are better. For a tent that fits in the manner I pack my bike, I found one that works for me.

If you want a debate, find some other poor soul with nothing else to do.

My all time favorite tent is a Canvas Springbar, but at 75lbs is not going on my bike.

I don't disagree with you. I only disagreed with the comment "I’d stay away from any tent that you have to push the poles through sleeves. Modern clips that attach to the poles are better in every way.

Many people here, including myself, respect your opinion and pay careful attention to them. Eems was looking at a tent and his next comment stated that he wasn't going to pull the trigger because some of the tent was sleeved. Whether or not Eems was guided by your opinion or his own experience I don't know, although I am almost certain he came to his decision through his vast camping knowledge. Others, just setting off, will not have the knowledge you and Eems have and may just dismiss sleeves as a result of your comment.

Sleeves are often used to distribute tension and clips can come unclipped and loosen with age. Some of the best tents in the world are sleeved and used in the most extreme environments. Hilleberg for example.

Buying a tent is always going to be a compromise. Size, weight, composition, use, etc, etc, all play a part in the decision-making process. It can be the difference between an enjoyable experience and a painful, expensive and miserable one.

Much of the idea of this forum is to discuss ideas and give helpful advice to others. Your statement was not helpful, but your follow-up explanation as to why clips in your opinion are superior was good, solid advice on why they were your and many tent makers' preference. The statement you made became helpful when you illustrated why.

Mak10 · Apr 26, 2021

The most helpful advice I can give is this: Buy the best you can afford, and get out and use it.

fac191 · Apr 26, 2021

Mak10 said:
FFS. For the ease of setting up, in possibly inclement weather, by one self, I think clips are better. For a tent that fits in the manner I pack my bike, I found one that works for me.

If you want a debate, find some other poor soul with nothing else to do.

My all time favorite tent is a Canvas Springbar, but at 75lbs is not going on my bike.

I agree, my tent is an MSR Hubba Hubba HP with footprint and extra vestibule on the side to put my gear in and cook. Opening on both sides for convenience. I know you get cheaper but I don't buy cheap I buy quality.

PhilPhilippines · Apr 26, 2021

Mak10 said:
The most helpful advice I can give is this: Buy the best you can afford, and get out and use it.
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Great opinion...got it right this time. Good look in the mirror was it?

Mak10 · Apr 26, 2021

Sierra1 · Apr 26, 2021

"To thine own self be true." Or, on a lighter note: "I yam what I yam, and that's all that I yam."

Mak10 · Apr 26, 2021

One tip I learned from the eemsreno ( who is a master at camping off a motorcycle). Is have a place to carry your tent outside your dry bag or panniers. Sometimes due to time constraints or other factors you have to pack up a wet tent. If you can carry it outside it helps.

I also carry my tent poles separated from my tent. The vibration can wear holes in your tent fabric.
Get out, and camp. What works for me, might not work for you. Experiment with what you got and improve on it.

I use a different tent when I don’t have to carry it on a motorcycle. I’d use a different tent still if I was backpacking.

PhilPhilippines · Apr 26, 2021

Mak10 said:
One tip I learned from the eemsreno ( who is a master at camping off a motorcycle). Is have a place to carry your tent outside your dry bag or panniers. Sometimes due to time constraints or other factors you have to pack up a wet tent. If you can carry it outside it helps.

I also carry my tent poles separated from my tent. The vibration can wear holes in your tent fabric.
Get out, and camp. What works for me, might not work for you. Experiment with what you got and improve on it.

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All undeniably good advice, that will benefit all...

fac191 · Apr 26, 2021

Sierra1 said:
"To thine own self be true." Or, on a lighter note: "I yam what I yam, and that's all that I yam."

Or as " The Legendary " Frank Zappa puts it,
" You Are What You Is "

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