High mileage Gen2.5

Hi all!

Checking out a high mileage 2017 ES tomorrow, and would love some advice. Price is right (almost suspiciously low but at a reputable dealer), bike looks in amazing shape, and has 61k on the clock. Valves were inspected at 30k, CCT was not replaced. I plan on a cold start to check for tensioner rattle.
I might be able to get the service records, which would obviously be of interest.

What else to look for?
How much is valve service with cct replacement?
I’m a bigger guy, 5’10” 265# - any thoughts or concerns of high mileage suspension issues?
Is the brake switch recall applicable, or easily enough replaced by the mechanically inclined?

Thanks in advance!

Edit to add: I’m in southern New England

Spidey sense, I like it. Not shopping in New England, are you?!? Or... did you recently trade in?

Welcome aboard.
We've got a number of members here with well over 100,000 miles and then there's eemsreno with over 200k and going.

It's due for a valve inspection and since you don't mention where you are (that's a hint) it could cost anywhere from $350-$700
Brake switch should be covered by the recall.
At that many miles you ought to do a complete look for anything loose or worn, such as steering bearings, worn wheel bearings, worn rear rotor (common), shot shock absorbers, etc.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Checkswrecks said:

Welcome aboard.
We've got a number of members here with well over 100,000 miles and then there's eemsreno with over 200k and going.

It's due for a valve inspection and since you don't mention where you are (that's a hint) it could cost anywhere from $350-$700
Brake switch should be covered by the recall.
At that many miles you ought to do a complete look for anything loose or worn, such as steering bearings, worn wheel bearings, worn rear rotor (common), shot shock absorbers, etc.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

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Thanks! I’ve updated my profile and the original post, too. I’m in Rhode Island, in the States. The PO said the mechanic that performed the valve inspection said clearances indicated “it wouldn’t need to be done again for a long time” - is it common that adjustment intervals can be extended based on inspection findings?
I did search around to find high mileage discussion threads - great reading and gives some confidence in shopping high mileage examples.
Off to search shock rebuild DIYs...

Aren't CCT issues pretty much a Gen1 only thing?

Gen 2 CCT are a non issue. I would not rush to get a valve adjustment, but that's just me. With new tires, If I put you on my '14 with 50,000 miles on it and covered the odometer, you would not know you were not riding a brand new bike. These bikes are extremely durable and long lasting.

Both my valve checks here in North Carolina were in the 400 dollar range. I've had two of them done, and it didn't need new shims on either one.

Man, I hope 61,000 isn't high mileage:. I have 77,000 on my 2014, and plan on keeping it til at least 100,000. In that 77,000 miles, the only things I've had to replace that weren't common wear items have been a rear wheel bearing and several headlights. I changed the bushings and seals in the forks last year, but they didn't need it. I've serviced the steering headset and swingarm twice now, and both are still running perfectly on their original bearings and races.

61,000 miles wouldn't worry me on a Super Ten unless the previous owner never did even rudimentary maintenance.

scott123007 said:

Gen 2 CCT are a non issue. I would not rush to get a valve adjustment, but that's just me. With new tires, If I put you on my '14 with 50,000 miles on it and covered the odometer, you would not know you were not riding a brand new bike. These bikes are extremely durable and long lasting.

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Ah, excellent feedback.

aqcon said:

Thanks! I’ve updated my profile and the original post, too. I’m in Rhode Island, in the States. The PO said the mechanic that performed the valve inspection said clearances indicated “it wouldn’t need to be done again for a long time” - is it common that adjustment intervals can be extended based on inspection findings?
I did search around to find high mileage discussion threads - great reading and gives some confidence in shopping high mileage examples.
Off to search shock rebuild DIYs...

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The amount of valve/head/cam/bucket wear during one interval has no relation to the amount of wear possible during the next interval. Inspect the valve clearance at or close to the suggested interval.

Headed out now, I’ll report in after the inspection with my observations and some pics.

gv550 said:

The amount of valve/head/cam/bucket wear during one interval has no relation to the amount of wear possible during the next interval. Inspect the valve clearance at or close to the suggested interval.

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Got it. Is there a Indy mechanic list or locator around, or should I just find a branded mechanic?

aqcon said:

Got it. Is there a Indy mechanic list or locator around, or should I just find a branded mechanic?

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I’d do it for you but we’re on opposite sides of a closed border .

aqcon said:

Hi all!

Checking out a high mileage 2017 ES tomorrow, and would love some advice. Price is right (almost suspiciously low but at a reputable dealer), bike looks in amazing shape, and has 61k on the clock. Valves were inspected at 30k, CCT was not replaced. I plan on a cold start to check for tensioner rattle.
I might be able to get the service records, which would obviously be of interest.

What else to look for?
How much is valve service with cct replacement?
I’m a bigger guy, 5’10” 265# - any thoughts or concerns of high mileage suspension issues?
Is the brake switch recall applicable, or easily enough replaced by the mechanically inclined?

Thanks in advance!

Edit to add: I’m in southern New England

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I think it’s illegal for a dealer to sell a vehicle with an outstanding safety recall. They should fix this before you sign and take delivery.


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aqcon said:

Got it. Is there a Indy mechanic list or locator around, or should I just find a branded mechanic?

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I would talk to whatever shop extensively their experience on these bikes. My first valve check said they had done many, but they ended up leaving the breather hose disconnected. Do a thorough visual check after they are done, cover gasket, breather hose, etc. I did ask for all the measurements, although I'm not sure how accurate they were. I did the next check and ajustment myself, and several were badly out of spec. Excellent learning experience to DIY.

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RCinNC said:

Man, I hope 61,000 isn't high mileage:. I have 77,000 on my 2014, and plan on keeping it til at least 100,000. In that 77,000 miles

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It isn't high mileage if you are the one putting on the mileage, it is high mileage when buying someone else's bike. There's a fair amount of bad surprises that can accumulate over that high of a mileage that you're not going to find out until after you buy it. Not to mention all of the normal wear and tear that pops up at high mileage like bushings/bearings/brakes/clutch/suspension/etc.

Saying that, if it is priced appropriately for the mileage, absolutely! By appropriately, if you have to throw a couple grand into it to fix surprises, will the total cost exceed a lower mileage bike? How much of an additional hit will you have to take if you decide to sell it? The market for higher mileage bikes is pretty limited.

Pretty sure I found the bike you're talking about. Price seems ok, not great, but ok. Would be better if it it came with luggage and other stuff I personally would add to save on those future purchasing costs.

My dudes, I’m in.

Spoke with previous service department and they did a valve “inspection” at 40k, so that is getting quoted prior to taking delivery, but was not factored into the deal and obviously needs to be done. Only other service was for some loose hose, with only 1hr billed, and no other deets.

Bike showed nicely, cold started and ran with no drama. Brakes and rotors look worn, not sure if original or not. ES worked adjusted through settings no problemo. Fork and shocks are dry - no telltale signs of leakage and the bike is still “garage dirty”, it wasn’t spic and span or detailed and hiding leaks. No leaks at final drive or around engine cases. Heated grips worked.

The brake switch recall is getting done Monday.

Grabbed 2yr YES (seemed reasonably priced) to hedge against any gremlins from the prior owner.

7% tax, title/reg, warranty, doc fee = $7300 Not sure how that compares, as I haven’t been following recent high mileage purchases.

regder said:

It isn't high mileage if you are the one putting on the mileage, it is high mileage when buying someone else's bike. There's a fair amount of bad surprises that can accumulate over that high of a mileage that you're not going to find out until after you buy it. Not to mention all of the normal wear and tear that pops up at high mileage like bushings/bearings/brakes/clutch/suspension/etc.

Saying that, if it is priced appropriately for the mileage, absolutely! By appropriately, if you have to throw a couple grand into it to fix surprises, will the total cost exceed a lower mileage bike? How much of an additional hit will you have to take if you decide to sell it? The market for higher mileage bikes is pretty limited.

Pretty sure I found the bike you're talking about. Price seems ok, not great, but ok. Would be better if it it came with luggage and other stuff I personally would add to save on those future purchasing costs.

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If it was the one at Motorsports Nation in Seekonk, that’s the one. Bike was 6995 yesterday, sold to me today for 5995; dealer wanted it gone. The difference pays for YES and some of the valve maintenance. Now to start shopping for luggage. Open to suggestions for how best to find decent used panniers...

Less than half the price of brand new. . . . for a bike that's only a quarter of the way through it's life. . . . sounds like a good deal to me. And. . . . it's the best blue.

Sierra1 said:

Less than half the price of brand new. . . . for a bike that's only a quarter of the way through it's life. . . . sounds like a good deal to me. And. . . . it's the best blue.

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Yeah, funny thing happened when reaching out to the dealer that had performed service on my bike... the service guy said he had the previous owner’s new S10 in for warranty work on the throttle body and was doing the brake switch recall.