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Well, I've looked and looked, read, studied, drooled, compared, made a nuisance of myself at a couple of Yammerhammer dealers (not near enough to me that I'll ever have to deal with them in the future), compared some more, talked to a couple of S10 riders down in Alabama, drooled some more, been caught up in the paralysis of analysis, and have finally decided that the Super Ten ES is the bike for me.

Now just one more question: When did Yamaha come out with the present version of the Super Tenere ES? I've been told everything from 2014 to 2017, even from sales and service folks at dealerships that I've personally talked to.

Thanks in advance for your truly expert answers!

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Gen 2 bikes came out for the 2014 model year which includes regular and the ES model. Not really any significant changes other than cosmetic through 2019
 
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timebak said:
….Now just one more question: When did Yamaha come out with the present version of the Super Tenere ES?....
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Define "present" version. Mak10 is right, 2014 saw the birth of the ES; which hasn't changed. Now if your, or their, definition includes color....that changes yearly. And, then there's a Raid version out there; special trim level. But, it's still the same bike. You'll find that in "certain" dealerships....they don't know jack s**t about what they sell. And, there are guys on this forum that can dismantle, and assemble the Tenere in their sleep; I'm not one of those though. So....ask away....you'll end up with the correct answer. By the way, I too was drawn to the ES; everything I wanted, and more.
 
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The only new thing of 2019, apart from the color, is the reinforced rims
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I too went with the ES model after getting some feedback from the group on here. I can’t tell you how much I like the adjustable suspension at the push of a button. I use this a lot, and the settings fall right in line with my (180) and my wife’s (135) weight. If I rode solo or off road only i might prefer the standard S10.
 
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Back in '15 I too did the same and went for the '16 ES. Everything I read led me to believe the ES would work for me (200lbs) and it does. The road conditions around here vary quite a bit, so it gets used.
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I thought I was going to have to at least re-spring mine. At some point I will. What's very puzzling is the sag numbers show it is way under sprung for my 210-220lb weight geared up. It should handle like crap. I'm actually happy with the progressive springs in the front and soft rear spring. After bringing it to Race Tech and discussing my options they recommend I put about 10,000 miles on the stock stuff before bringing it in.

It has 84 different adjustments that will please even a picky bastard like me!!
 
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Jlq1969: Thanks for the pics to show the wheel reinforcement! A pic is worth a bunch of words in this case. Have any of y'all had or heard of any wheel/spoke issues with the pre-2019 wheels?

ballisticexchris: This is the first I've heard about rider weight being a possible factor in how well the suspension will, or can, perform. I weigh about 250 lbs at present. I've been losing weight and getting back in shape for riding again, but probably will never get below about 230. Am I going to have to plan on a re-spring to get optimum performance from my ES?

My riding will probably be 50-60% pavement and twisties and 40-50% gravel, dirt. powerlines & two-tracks.
 
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Jlq1969: Thanks for the pics to show the wheel reinforcement! A pic is worth a bunch of words in this case. Have any of y'all had or heard of any wheel/spoke issues with the pre-2019 wheels?

ballisticexchris: This is the first I've heard about rider weight being a possible factor in how well the suspension will, or can, perform. I weigh about 250 lbs at present. I've been losing weight and getting back in shape for riding again, but probably will never get below about 230. Am I going to have to plan on a re-spring to get optimum performance from my ES?

My riding will probably be 50-60% pavement and twisties and 40-50% gravel, dirt. powerlines & two-tracks.
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If you do a quick search in the suspension forum you will find a few members here who did some pretty slick and effective spring rate changes on the ES bikes.
 
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timebak said:
Jlq1969: Thanks for the pics to show the wheel reinforcement! A pic is worth a bunch of words in this case. Have any of y'all had or heard of any wheel/spoke issues with the pre-2019 wheels?
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One of the very few Achilles heal on this bike is the spokes. They like to loosen for up to around 20K miles. Best preventive is for the first 4-5K miles, check them every thousand or so. After that, each oil change. Also most put tie wraps on the the spokes in case one does get loose. You don't loose the spoke, or damage the bike that way. Couple of my spokes would loosen up for the first 5K miles or so, but not since then (68K miles on the bike now).

Also, there has been several rims where the spokes attach that have split. Not sure if it was because of improper torquing of the spokes, or a fluke, but it is soooo rare that it is not a concern.
 
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Cycledude: If you look carefully at the two photos of the wheels, and look at the rib on the inner surface of the wheel that the spokes go through, you'll see that the rib on the blue (2019) wheel is taller than the rib on the black (earlier) wheel. This gives more material from the spoke hole to the ID of the wheel (or top of the rib) than the earlier versions.
 
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It’s probably obvious to see but I don’t see any rear wheel reinforcement , could you please explain ? This is actually the first time I’ve heard they were reinforced for 2019.
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Might be a photoshop picture. The 2019 Super Teneres have the exact same rims just a different color. At least here in the US......
 
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The rims were updated quietly by Mama Yama and the superseding part number is now all you can buy new. They went from 94440-17003-00 to 94440-17008-00. I think the change was actually in the MY 2018 production.

timbak - Welcome aboard.
As for weight, my son weighs a good deal more than you and is fine on my non-ES with the stock suspension. With an ES, you'll simply pick a higher pre-load which would be about right for me with a little luggage. I wouldn't worry about re-springing a new ES.
 
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ballisticexchris said:
Might be a photoshop picture. The 2019 Super Teneres have the exact same rims just a different color. At least here in the US......
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You are right, on the yamaha USA page, it comes out with a common rim, on the yamaha canada page, it comes out with a reinforced rim
I saw this bike in Ft. Lauderdale
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This in The page of Chile, I saw too in Dealer
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